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- Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:07 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4969
Re: Identity View
I don’t know of that kind of statement. So I wouldn’t say it’s just a view. More of a fact, that Buddha didn’t teach an extreme conclusion or strong concept like that ‚there is no self‘. He really did, which is also the Classical Theravadin position. Sadly today many people are exposed to ideas the...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:03 pm
- Forum: Classical Theravāda
- Topic: Identity View
- Replies: 31
- Views: 4969
Re: Identity View
Literal translation of one of the most famous verses from the Dhammapada: Attā hi attano nātho The self is the self's protector/refuge Ko hi nātho paro siyā For who else would be (its) protector/refuge? Attanā hi sudantena With a self well-tamed Nāthaṁ labhati dullabhaṁ. One gains the protector/ref...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:01 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Venerating the Dhamma as the Impersonal Divine Cosmic Order symbolized by the Thousand Spoked Wheel symbol
- Replies: 146
- Views: 4288
Re: Venerating the Dhamma as the Impersonal Divine Cosmic Order symbolized by the Thousand Spoked Wheel symbol
It is very sad that Mahasamghika did not survive up to this day. Regarding Sarvastivadins, it seems that they were still more open minded in certain interpretations of the suttas, for example luminosity of the mind. A lot of Mahayana has its roots in the Mahasamghikas. Theravada too says the mind i...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:58 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Kamma and intention
- Replies: 17
- Views: 490
Re: Kamma and intention
This is a really great illustration of why the Buddha didn't teach that there is no self. And of how the crazy mahāyāna emptiness teachings evolved via the Big Lie that he did teach it. If all dhammas are empty of a self, then a self doesn’t exist. If everything is empty of “blue” then there is no ...
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:05 am
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
So you investigate impermanence in a 'normal' state? Why bother with jhana in the first place? Is there anywhere in the suttas that states one comes out of any of the four jhanas in order to develop wisdom? MN 140, MN 52 Talking about fake news. A supposedly critical part of the practice according ...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:38 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
Knowing, understanding and discriminating doesn't necessarily involve vittaka & vicara. Even in daily life this can be seen. Understanding (paññā) requires reflective thought (paṭisañcikkhati). How can one reflect when the mind is in an immovable state (āneñja), and without vitakka-vicāra which...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:13 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
This is deliberate misrepresentation. Fake news.BrokenBones wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:04 pm Vitakka & Vicara may have gone but discrimination, perception and understanding are still rattling around.
Although, these things are long gone in VM style jhana.
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:12 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
Providing premises and a conclusion is making an argument.
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:11 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
It's of little value to throw out a couple of sutta numbers without actually quoting the parts that you think backs up your view. From MN 52 Again, with the abandoning of pleasure and pain…a …Then they reflect (paṭisañcikkhati) : ‘This fourth jhāna is conditioned and volitionally produced. But what...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:48 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1029
Re: What is a dhammā exactly?
If they are qualities then that isn’t quite true. Also nibbana is said to be a dhamma. Conditioned qualities are fabricated. And nibbana is beyond fabrication by definition. We have to distinguish between conditioned and unconditioned dhammas. "Anything we experience" covers both? I think...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:55 pm
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
So you investigate impermanence in a 'normal' state? Why bother with jhana in the first place? Is there anywhere in the suttas that states one comes out of any of the four jhanas in order to develop wisdom? MN 140, MN 52 It's of little value to throw out a couple of sutta numbers without actually q...
- Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:02 am
- Forum: General Theravāda discussion
- Topic: Two Types of Jhāna
- Replies: 25
- Views: 468
Re: Two Types of Jhāna
What is "object-scrutinising Jhāna"? "Jhāna is twofold: that which (views or) examines closely the object and that which examines closely the characteristic marks. Of these two, "object-scrutinising" Jhāna examines closely the devices [e.g., Kasiṇas] as mental objects. Insi...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:32 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1029
Re: What is a dhammā exactly?
Yes, this old paper by Gethin was good. He also discusses dhammas as states or qualities at length in his main book the Buddhist path to Awakening (highly recommended). For those who don't know, Rupert Gethin is a devoted Buddhist practitioner who belongs to the English Samatha Trust . Here are two...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:10 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1029
Re: What is a dhammā exactly?
Yes, this old paper by Gethin was good. He also discusses dhammas as states or qualities at length in his main book the Buddhist path to Awakening (highly recommended). For those who don't know, Rupert Gethin is a devoted Buddhist practitioner who belongs to the English Samatha Trust . Here are two...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:12 pm
- Forum: Early Buddhism
- Topic: What is a dhammā exactly?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 1029