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by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:29 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: Buddha appear lagging behind Jesus & Mohammed
Replies: 73
Views: 3756

Re: Buddha appear lagging behind Jesus & Mohammed

I sometimes wonder whether the focus on suffering puts people off.
by Spiny Norman
Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:18 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:46 pm Eternalism is … while annihilationism is
Eternalism means you do not change


(You are the same person you always were)


Annihilationism means you won’t exist


(Period)
No.
by Spiny Norman
Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

So you agree that nothing is annihilated because there are no things that inherently exist in the first place? No that’s annihilationism Trying to sneak past I think you're missing the point. In the suttas both eternalism and annihiliationism are based on the assumption of a self. Eternalism is the...
by Spiny Norman
Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:40 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:27 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:52 pm When the parts are assembled
we use the word ‘chariot’.
I know this way of thinking
It’s not the full picture
It's not a "way of thinking", it's what the suttas say.
Anyway, what is the full picture in your view?
by Spiny Norman
Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

Have you read SN 5.10? A nun? She thinks that way “Why do you believe there’s such a thing as a ‘sentient being’? Māra, is this your theory? This is just a pile of conditions, you won’t find a sentient being here. When the parts are assembled we use the word ‘chariot’. So too, when the aggregates a...
by Spiny Norman
Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:57 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:01 pm
cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:31 am
Annihilationism is not the teaching
Because there is nothing to be annihilated. See SN 5.10.
No…
Why "no"? Have you read SN 5.10?
by Spiny Norman
Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 1:04 pm

Still not what dependent arising is about
Please say briefly what you think DO is about then.
by Spiny Norman
Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:01 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:31 am
Annihilationism is not the teaching
Because there is nothing to be annihilated. See SN 5.10.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:29 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:25 pm
Spiny Norman wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:24 pm No mention of afterlife there.
Wrong

Where does the above passage talk about afterlife? It doesn't.
by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:27 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Non-Buddhist Practices and Buddhadhamma
Replies: 7
Views: 359

Re: Non-Buddhist Practices and Buddhadhamma

I think AN 4.183 is also talking about the same thing, namely if a spiritual practice leads to less hate, greed and delusion then its fine. To me this would mean that if we look at say meditation, then a wide range of practices can be used. This is actually what we see in the suttas themselves. Mak...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:24 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

The state of mind called nirvana is also the afterlife state of mind Really? Where in the suttas does it say that? “There is that sphere where there is no earth, no water, no fire nor wind; no sphere of infinity of space, of infinity of consciousness, of nothingness or even of neither-perception-no...
by Spiny Norman
Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: The great cappucciNO SELF debate
Replies: 760
Views: 18890

Re: The great cappucciNO SELF debate

cappuccino wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:19 pm The state of mind called nirvana is also the afterlife state of mind

Really? Where in the suttas does it say that?
by Spiny Norman
Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Phenomenological Buddhism and Element Meditation
Replies: 14
Views: 572

Re: Phenomenological Buddhism and Element Meditation

As an example, when I'm walking by the sea, I might notice the firmness of the ground under my feet, the light pressure of wind on my face, or the warmth of the sun on my skin. And if I go for a paddle, the sensation of water on my skin. And being aware that consciousness is required for all this. ...
by Spiny Norman
Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:21 am
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Phenomenological Buddhism and Element Meditation
Replies: 14
Views: 572

Re: Phenomenological Buddhism and Element Meditation

As an example, when I'm walking by the sea, I might notice the firmness of the ground under my feet, the light pressure of wind on my face, or the warmth of the sun on my skin. And if I go for a paddle, the sensation of water on my skin.
And being aware that consciousness is required for all this.
by Spiny Norman
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:17 pm
Forum: General Theravāda Meditation
Topic: Gocara
Replies: 7
Views: 392

Re: Gocara

Is the basic distinction here turning attention inwards, rather than outwards?