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by divine
Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:29 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

Yes, I accept that. But don't you think people would still be as sceptical? One thing we have learned by now is that stream entry appears to be very, very rare. And for the answers to the rest of your question, it is my intention to leave a lot left to hang when I already have mentioned something ab...
by divine
Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:43 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

Guys, this thread didn't go excactly as I expected. But as it has went I feel it has turned out gradually to a point where it is appropriate to accept the challenge of writing something more indepth about the experience - in order to remove some of the shade for those of you who want to try to do wh...
by divine
Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:14 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

I agree with tiltbillings when he says it's an open topic of discussion if it is put out there, but for those interested in that discussion, I would prefer if what I actually said was beeing discussed. Instead of demands for proof or this quote where Reductor's words are labelled as mine. :namaste: ...
by divine
Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

Thanks for the effort, but have you ever heard the saying "arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded". This is a thread about how common stream entry is, there's nothing to be proved. Now I have to go practise my restraint again.
by divine
Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:23 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

@ tiltbillings: For all I know about you on the other end of the keyboard, you are a fairly dedicated and fairly diligent guy with quite alot of experience and knowledge. You have been the number one sceptic about this claim of attainment. And that is good, sceptic's are essential in a community. Bu...
by divine
Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

One last thing guys, one reason to practise meditation is that when you experience the big nothingness you can keep your calm instead of shitting your pants! And do some yoga! Thank you all, this have been a good experience for me. A wake up call to why it's important to keep this thing for myself. ...
by divine
Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:34 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

I think I'll leave it at this. Take care, guys!

:focus:
by divine
Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:15 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

This sounds awfully like a personal meaning and an invitation to convince you, but I won't accept it.
tiltbillings wrote:
divine wrote:But the bottom line is, I don't need it.
If you are as you claim, you would not being saying that.
by divine
Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:06 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

@ marc108 Thanks for this advice, I have been asking some people I have met that have meditation experience and consider themselves buddhists. The thing is I can't get myself to claim anything, neither stream entry nor experiences, some of the reasons I'm sure you can imagine. I'm here talking to yo...
by divine
Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:03 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

Greetings, If we are to progress on the path then we need to maintain our conduct. Yes... whilst not identifying with it or relying on it. Those who think morality is supreme say purity is by self-restraint; Having taken upon themselves an observance they are dedicated to it. “Let us train ourselve...
by divine
Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:34 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: ...---... How common is stream entry?

@ manas: Thanks, and yes, I can see this. I have no clear answer at this point how such a thing can happen, and as I write in the Reductor sceptisism and discussion link in the first post - it will be of no gain to continue to try to convince anyone, I have said what is to be said at this point. But...
by divine
Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:31 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: ...---... How common is stream entry?

Excellent points guys, and it is the contributors and moderators who decide how valuable a thread will be. So at least have the respect to read the first post, and maybe follow the Reductor-link for some good quality sceptisism and discussion.
by divine
Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: ...---... How common is stream entry?

Dear moderators, I am sorry I wasn't able to get accustomed to the do's and don't's on this forum before venturing into this, but if time and convention permits could you possibly consider moderating this thread a little bit? I hope for this thread to be without discussion, a simple "I know of ...
by divine
Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:51 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

As a former atheist/agnostic and certainly not a buddhist I would be very sceptical myself had anyone made claims like this. Several issues arises, how to prove it is one. Why argue for or against it is another. If someone actually had become a stream enterer, why convey it like this? As well I coul...
by divine
Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:32 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: How common is stream entry?
Replies: 527
Views: 130860

Re: How common is stream entry?

Hehe, well then. Let's just see what happens.

Take care, strive for liberation, you are on the right track!