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by SarathW
Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:23 am
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: One reason why people might deny self
Replies: 8
Views: 199

Re: One reason why people might deny self

ok, i see Just a correction. Taking the Noble Eightfold Path or Nibbana with craving is called the right view with the affluent. (Lokiya Samma Ditthi) Bhante Dhammanando or someone else can clarify this for us. Craving here means Atta Upadana. Is this something to do with the OP? what do you mean b...
by SarathW
Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:19 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Worldly Right view with effluent?
Replies: 9
Views: 207

Re: Worldly Right view with effluent?

pops wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:54 am To make this thread a little bit relevant to actual explanations within this forum

For example is it wrong view to say, that there was no Buddha.
This is not the question of the OP.
Perhaps you can start a new thread with your question.
by SarathW
Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:17 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Worldly Right view with effluent?
Replies: 9
Views: 207

Re: Worldly Right view with affluent?

Rambutan wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:03 am Are you talking about affluent or effluent?
They are two entirely different words.
Affluent means having a lot of wealth.
Effluent means flowing out from something.
Sorry. It should be effluents.
:thumbsup:
by SarathW
Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:42 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Worldly Right view with effluent?
Replies: 9
Views: 207

Re: Worldly Right view with affluent?

But Brahama Jala Sutta Buddha talks about recluses who attain Jhana. So? Jhana in and of itself is not something exclusive to just Buddha's disciples. The Buddha before discovering His Dhamma already learned and attained high-level Jhanas from His outsider-teachers. Agree. So why can't we tell thos...
by SarathW
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:52 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Worldly Right view with effluent?
Replies: 9
Views: 207

Re: Worldly Right view with affluent?

Do we find any of the views in Brahmajala Sutta as the worldly right view with affluent? If not why? They're wrong views as per Maurice Walsh's note on DN1: Brahmajāla Sutta: The Supreme Net (What the Teaching is Not). The monks observe the wanderer Suppiya arguing with his pupil about the merits o...
by SarathW
Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:45 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Worldly Right view with effluent?
Replies: 9
Views: 207

Worldly Right view with effluent?

Do we find any of the views in Brahmajala Sutta as the worldly right view with effluent? If not why? https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.01.0.bodh.html "And what is right view? Right view, I tell you, is of two sorts: There is right view with effluents, siding with merit, resulting i...
by SarathW
Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:27 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: One reason why people might deny self
Replies: 8
Views: 199

Re: One reason why people might deny self

What is one of the wrong views listed? Any view with craving is a wrong view. Even if you take the Noble Eightfold Path or Nibbana with craving it is a wrong view. ok, i see Just a correction. Taking the Noble Eightfold Path or Nibbana with craving is called the right view with the affluent. (Lokiy...
by SarathW
Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:56 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: One reason why people might deny self
Replies: 8
Views: 199

Re: One reason why people might deny self

auto wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:53 pm
SarathW wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:03 pm This is one of the wrong views listed in the Brahmajala Sutta.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .bodh.html
What is one of the wrong views listed?
Any view with craving is a wrong view.
Even if you take the Noble Eightfold Path or Nibbana with craving it is a wrong view.
by SarathW
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:03 pm
Forum: Connections to Other Paths
Topic: One reason why people might deny self
Replies: 8
Views: 199

Re: One reason why people might deny self

This is one of the wrong views listed in the Brahmajala Sutta.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .bodh.html
by SarathW
Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:56 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: Patisambhidamagga specifically anapanasati
Replies: 9
Views: 302

Re: Patisambhidamagga specifically anapanasati

Problem 1 Mindfulness is both the establishment (foundation) and the mindfulness. Why is mindfulness the foundation or establishment? This is what I am not clear about. I get that mindfulness is the priority but maybe foundation is an unclear translation. Without keeping mindfulness in mind, how ca...
by SarathW
Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:08 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is this knowledge for?
Replies: 22
Views: 506

Re: What is this knowledge for?

Agree. Maybe many billions of humans have some religion. Religion must be bringing some happiness to them. Even if religion is based on ignorance it brings happiness at least short term. Not sure about that. Just like the knife analogy mentioned before , whether religion brings happiness or sufferi...
by SarathW
Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is this knowledge for?
Replies: 22
Views: 506

Re: What is this knowledge for?

The knowledge is for: Short term: to gain happiness; long term: to attain Nibbana. It is fruitful by just knowing even one topic in this Sasana. Like the case of āyasmā Tisaraṇagamaniyo Thero. Knowing the value of Tisarana (the three refuges), a man took refuge in the Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha. He...
by SarathW
Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:03 am
Forum: Theravāda for Beginners
Topic: I encourage you to practice 8 precepts
Replies: 4
Views: 278

Re: I encourage you to practice 8 precepts

:goodpost: However, I suggest at least try one whole day not half a day. Indeed. Otherwise you could be abstaining from eating at the wrong time exclusively at the right time, and abstaining from sexual intercourse except when you're in bed with your wife. Thanks. You got the point. :twothumbsup:
by SarathW
Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:01 am
Forum: General Theravāda discussion
Topic: What is this knowledge for?
Replies: 22
Views: 506

Re: What is this knowledge for?

Further considering my question I wondered whether the knowledge is to increase Saddha.
Normally we read the contract or get a solicitor to check it before we sign it.
Perhaps a deeper investigation of Dhamma may increase your faith.
by SarathW
Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:37 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: a news
Replies: 2
Views: 162

Re: a news

:hello: