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Postby zerotime » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:01 pm


I'm looking for information about the 4 states to nibbana. Perhaps somebody can tell me the right forum to ask.

the website is nice and interesting.

Thanks for the work :)

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Postby Paul Davy » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:21 am

Greetings Zerotime,

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

Can you clarify what you know of the "4 states to nibbana" as I've not come across this expression before?

The first thing that comes to mind is the four levels of noble ariyan Sangha (stream-entrant, once-returner, non-returner, arahant) but wonder whether you're asking about the 4 Noble Truths, the 4 Divine Abidings or some else altogether.

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Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:26 am


Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!


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Postby Thaibebop » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:19 am

Hi! I am new here myself.

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Postby Ben » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:06 am

Hi zerotime

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel.
You are more than welcome to ask the question. Please keep in mind that our different fora have a slightly different focus which may affect the tone and direction of discussion. For example, the question asked in any of the Classical Mahavihara Theravada subfora will require responses to rely upon the Tipitaka and/or the ancient commentaries and/or later writers who are considered to represent the Mahavihara point of view. While the same question asked in the Modern Theravada allows for a wider range of points of view spanning, but not limited to, the later interpretations and developments of Theravada.
Its a good idea to have a look at the TOS and the forum-specific guidelines which will familiarise you with the purpose of our fora.
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Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:48 pm

Hi and welcome
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(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
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Postby zerotime » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:03 am

thanks to everybody.

ok, I will try inside Classical Theravada

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