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Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby alan » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:29 am

Recently found your forum. I'm hoping to discuss Dhamma with intelligent, sane people. All too often I run up against mushy-minded new-agey crystals and pyramid types--or worse!
I'm a photographer, currently working in New England (USA), heading off to Asia in November. Second time through Handful of leaves, it has been a revelation. I've found accesstoinsight to be an incredible resource. I'd like to talk to others on the path. The non-crazy ones, I mean.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:34 am

Greetings Alan,

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel.

No crystals here :tongue:

P.S. You might want to have a look at the different sub-forums here, get a feel of what they're each about (and any forum-specific guidelines they may possess) and use this categorisation to customise your experience here by steering clear of that which won't be of interest to you.

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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:49 am

NO sorry if you find anyone who is sane and rational slap them with a kipper 60 times while singing the birdy song off key in e minor, then youll see just how sane and rational they really are!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:52 am

Manapa wrote:NO sorry if you find anyone who is sane and rational slap them with a kipper 60 times while singing the birdy song off key in e minor, then youll see just how sane and rational they really are!


A kipper? I would go for a flounder. Somehow more poetic.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:58 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Manapa wrote:NO sorry if you find anyone who is sane and rational slap them with a kipper 60 times while singing the birdy song off key in e minor, then youll see just how sane and rational they really are!


A kipper? I would go for a flounder. Somehow more poetic.


Not the same smell! :tongue:
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby pink_trike » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:12 am

Greetings! In my experience, people interested in the Dharma fall on a spectrum ranging from rational to irrational and every point in between, by Dharma subject. The Dharma gently nudges everyone toward the middle ground.
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Clear Light is Union
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Jechbi » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:15 am

Welcome. It's an interesting mix.
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But never soddens what is open;
Uncover, then, what is concealed,
Lest it be soddened by the rain.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby BlackBird » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:24 am

Hi there Alan, keep in mind that no matter where we go, we're going to find things that are disagreeable to us. You could look at it this way: It's a good chance to practice those Paramis.

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"Birth is stressful, aging is stressful, death is stressful; sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair are stressful; association with what is not loved is stressful, separation from what is loved is stressful, not getting what is wanted is stressful. In short, the five clinging-aggregates are stressful.

"And what is the cause by which stress comes into play? Craving is the cause by which stress comes into play.

"And what is the diversity in stress? There is major stress & minor, slowly fading & quickly fading. This is called the diversity in stress.

- AN 6.63 - Nibbedhika Sutta: Penetrative

pink_trike wrote:The Dharma gently nudges everyone toward the middle ground.


Well, you can lead a horse to water...

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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:25 am

alan wrote:Recently found your forum. I'm hoping to discuss Dhamma with intelligent, sane people.


All the joking aside, there are a fair number of knowledgable, serious practitioners here, and you will find good discussions.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby alan » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:35 am

So it seems. But what better way to welcome a new friend than with some absurdist humor?
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:37 am

:hello:

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby zavk » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:15 am

Welcome.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:30 am

alan wrote:So it seems. But what better way to welcome a new friend than with some absurdist humor?


Too much Monty Python in my formative years.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Ben » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:12 am

Hi Alan
Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!
Hope to see some of your contributions soon!
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:59 am

alan wrote:Recently found your forum. I'm hoping to discuss Dhamma with intelligent, sane people. All too often I run up against mushy-minded new-agey crystals and pyramid types--or worse!
I'm a photographer, currently working in New England (USA), heading off to Asia in November. Second time through Handful of leaves, it has been a revelation. I've found accesstoinsight to be an incredible resource. I'd like to talk to others on the path. The non-crazy ones, I mean.

Personally I am working hard to stop my habitual aversion to any manifestation of New Age " philosophy ".
Not because I am tempted by any of its manifestations, but because I am trying to see the person behind the views.
Its not always easy..... :thinking:
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:34 am

alan wrote:So it seems. But what better way to welcome a new friend than with some absurdist humor?


its only Absurd if it fails with everyone, and there is a being (an Arahant) my money is on it not failing with.
but already said Hi at your first post!
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby alan » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:12 pm

If what you mean is that the Pythons were a troupe of enlightened beings, I concur.
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:48 pm

alan wrote:If what you mean is that the Pythons were a troupe of enlightened beings, I concur.


Maybe, maybe not!
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby Sanghamitta » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:02 pm

alan wrote:If what you mean is that the Pythons were a troupe of enlightened beings, I concur.

Enlightened ?
Half the time they werent even funny ! Some of their shows were recently screened by the BBC on one of its subsidary channels. For every memorable sketch there were about four that were deadly dull and dated. I would expect a troupe of Enlightened people to be a little more consistant.. :smile: Plus, if John Cleese was Enlightened, what happened to turn him into a bore ? NO no no...
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Re: Hi! Any rational people out there?

Postby alan » Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:14 pm

Guess I should have inserted one of those silly little yellow people. I didn't think anyone would take that too seriously...
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