What just happened?`

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What just happened?`

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:44 am

Anyone watching the presidential debates in America? Obama just, well...he got his ass handed to him.

What just happened?
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby manas » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:01 am

Whatever happened, we had better hope that he gets through, because I've heard how Romney would 'deal' with Iran if elected and it's scary stuff for the world.

I'm no fan of Obama, but at least the man has a developed cerebral cortex and is relatively sane.

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Re: What just happened?`

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:30 am

manas wrote:Whatever happened, we had better hope that he gets through, because I've heard how Romney would 'deal' with Iran if elected and it's scary stuff for the world.

I'm no fan of Obama, but at least the man has a developed cerebral cortex and is relatively sane.

Peace.

Agreed, I was just honestly blown away. I hope his next performance is better.

Although we still have to get through Biden vs. Ryan....ick.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta

Stuff I write about things.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Ben » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:58 am

LonesomeYogurt wrote:...he got his ass handed to him.


I'm unfamiliar with that expression. Though I am thinking its probably not a good thing.
I heard snippets of the debate on the radio down here in the wilds of Tasmania.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby David N. Snyder » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:03 am

If you're an Obama supporter, there is nothing to worry about. I believe Obama will win in a landslide or near landslide.

(I mention for the benefit of some who may not know the election process in the U.S.): The polls measuring all Americans are meaningless. It is the electoral votes that count and that is based on the "point" value of each state and whoever wins a specific state, wins all of the "points" / electoral votes of that state. One possible landslide scenario:

http://electoralmap.net/2012/myPredicti ... 0qo0xrwq0z

Obama 416
Romney 122

Texas has been leaning more and more "Blue" in recent elections but even if you change the Texas count to Red and also Arizona and Florida too, then it would be:

Obama 338
Romney 200

And then further if you change Virginia and North Carolina to Red:

Obama 310
Romney 228

So, in other words, Romney has no chance.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby manas » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:07 am

LonesomeYogurt wrote:
manas wrote:Whatever happened, we had better hope that he gets through, because I've heard how Romney would 'deal' with Iran if elected and it's scary stuff for the world.

I'm no fan of Obama, but at least the man has a developed cerebral cortex and is relatively sane.

Peace.

Agreed, I was just honestly blown away. I hope his next performance is better.

Although we still have to get through Biden vs. Ryan....ick.


Have some dry crackers at hand, I always find that munching on dry toasted grains alleviates feelings of nausea.

I'm actually looking forward to the Vice-pres debate, I expect there will be a few gaffes in that one from either side, if nothing else might be good for a laugh or two :tongue:

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Re: What just happened?`

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:12 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:So, in other words, Romney has no chance.


Oops. I am usually pretty good at predicting the winner of U.S. presidential elections. In a last minute surge, Romney has taken over the lead in most polls. :o

This took me by complete surprise. I thought Obama would win since he had the similar "cult of personality" likability that Reagan had when Reagan won by landslide for his reelection in 1984. I guess I over-estimated Obama's likability. It is not over yet, but it is not looking good right now for Obama.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:33 pm

Yes, but Sampson slew 20,000 Philistines and pulled down a temple with nice hair and the jawbone of an ass.

Romney has both, so watch out.

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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Sam Vara » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:48 pm

Sampson slew 20,000 Philistines and pulled down a temple with nice hair and the jawbone of an ass.


Well, as the OP said, Obama got his ass handed to him...
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Yana » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:57 am

Yup i watched it.
Obama definitely got something handed down to him.. :tongue:
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:35 am

Obama wins!!

My prediction (see above) wasn't that far off after all.

The counting is still being done but it looks like it will be:

Electoral votes:
Obama 332
Romney 206
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Ben » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:39 am

Listening to him now.

Three cheers for the great (Irish) president, Mr O'Bama!
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Ben » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:41 am

David N. Snyder wrote:Electoral votes:
Obama 332
Romney 206


Quite amazing how close your prediction came, David!
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Reductor » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:53 am

I sigh with relief!
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby SamKR » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:58 am

Why is everyone happy that Obama won? :thinking:
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:01 am

SamKR wrote:Why is everyone happy that Obama won? :thinking:


Who did you want? Did you want Romney? Really?
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby Reductor » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:04 am

Awww, shucks! Everyone can like who they want.

Since I'm Canadian, I lean left (it gives me an uneven gait, but I live with it). As such, I have a deep distrust for the righters in the US. Even Obama has given us some scares up here in the North-Country.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby SamKR » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:07 am

David N. Snyder wrote:
SamKR wrote:Why is everyone happy that Obama won? :thinking:


Who did you want? Did you want Romney? Really?


Not sure, but is Obama so significantly different from Romney? I am surprised to see the wave of applause from the people (my relatives, friends here and in Asia) who don't even know much about what good thing Obama did, or what wrong would Romney do. Their support seems to be based on personality rather than policy. Just my opinion.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:14 am

I agree there is definitely too much made and too much voter decision based on personality rather than issues.

For me, one of the key factors was which one is less likely to go to another war, which one is less likely to engage in nation building. You would think we would learn from history, but apparently not. Other than that, I agree with you mostly that there is not much difference between the two. Not much gets done either way as they don't have as much power as they would like. They do seem to have plenty of power for using military force unnecessarily, for some reason, though.
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Re: What just happened?`

Postby SamKR » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:25 am

David N. Snyder wrote:
For me, one of the key factors was which one is less likely to go to another war, which one is less likely to engage in nation building.

Ok, that's right. If Obama is less likely to go to another war (and so less suffering in the world) that would be really good. :)
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