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our fathers

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:53 am



    How do we forgive our Fathers?
    Maybe in a dream
    Do we forgive our Fathers for leaving us too often or forever
    when we were little?

    Maybe for scaring us with unexpected rage
    or making us nervous
    because there never seemed to be any rage there at all.

    Do we forgive our Fathers for marrying or not marrying our Mothers?
    For Divorcing or not divorcing our Mothers?

    And shall we forgive them for their excesses of warmth or coldness?
    Shall we forgive them for pushing or leaning
    for shutting doors
    for speaking through walls
    or never speaking
    or never being silent?

    Do we forgive our Fathers in our age or in theirs
    or their deaths
    saying it to them or not saying it?

    If we forgive our Fathers what is left?

    * This poem is read during the last scene in Smoke Signals. It was
    originally published in a longer version titled “Forgiving Our
    Fathers” in a book of poems titled Ghost Radio by dick lourie published by Hanging
    Loose Press in 1998
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: our fathers

Postby Ben » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:00 am

Thanks Tilt.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: our fathers

Postby Modus.Ponens » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:17 pm

Beautiful poem, and I don't ussualy like poetry. :smile:
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Re: our fathers

Postby DAWN » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:44 pm

I forgot the face of my father.

PS But i have just to watch in the mirrow.
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Re: our fathers

Postby Yana » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:15 pm

DAWN wrote:I forgot the face of my father.

PS But i have just to watch in the mirrow.


:console:

Beautiful Poem :candle:
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Re: our fathers

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:34 am

Yana wrote:
DAWN wrote:I forgot the face of my father.

PS But i have just to watch in the mirrow.


:console:

Beautiful Poem :candle:


Thanks for your compassion Yana, it's gentil. :namaste:

But actualy, i'am not sorrow, because if i could remember my father's face, icauses were different and consequances too, so i wouldn be here and, perharps, never meet Buddha teachings :namaste:
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