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our fathers

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:53 am



    How do we forgive our Fathers?
    Maybe in a dream
    Do we forgive our Fathers for leaving us too often or forever
    when we were little?

    Maybe for scaring us with unexpected rage
    or making us nervous
    because there never seemed to be any rage there at all.

    Do we forgive our Fathers for marrying or not marrying our Mothers?
    For Divorcing or not divorcing our Mothers?

    And shall we forgive them for their excesses of warmth or coldness?
    Shall we forgive them for pushing or leaning
    for shutting doors
    for speaking through walls
    or never speaking
    or never being silent?

    Do we forgive our Fathers in our age or in theirs
    or their deaths
    saying it to them or not saying it?

    If we forgive our Fathers what is left?

    * This poem is read during the last scene in Smoke Signals. It was
    originally published in a longer version titled “Forgiving Our
    Fathers” in a book of poems titled Ghost Radio by dick lourie published by Hanging
    Loose Press in 1998

What is the use of his knowledge
pertaining to the number of insects in the whole world?
Rather, inquire into his knowledge of
that which is to be practised by us

-- Dharmakirti

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Níl sa saol seo ach ceo
There is naught in this life but mist
Is ní bheimid beo ach seal beag gearr.
And we will not be alive but a short hard time.
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Re: our fathers

Postby Ben » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:00 am

Thanks Tilt.
...he wondered whether there was any love between human beings that did not rest upon some sort of self-delusion.

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Re: our fathers

Postby Modus.Ponens » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:17 pm

Beautiful poem, and I don't ussualy like poetry. :smile:
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Re: our fathers

Postby DAWN » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:44 pm

I forgot the face of my father.

PS But i have just to watch in the mirrow.
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Re: our fathers

Postby Yana » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:15 pm

DAWN wrote:I forgot the face of my father.

PS But i have just to watch in the mirrow.


:console:

Beautiful Poem :candle:
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Re: our fathers

Postby DAWN » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:34 am

Yana wrote:
DAWN wrote:I forgot the face of my father.

PS But i have just to watch in the mirrow.


:console:

Beautiful Poem :candle:


Thanks for your compassion Yana, it's gentil. :namaste:

But actualy, i'am not sorrow, because if i could remember my father's face, icauses were different and consequances too, so i wouldn be here and, perharps, never meet Buddha teachings :namaste:
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