"She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby David N. Snyder » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:34 pm

Signed the petition.

The world needs to grow up and get over this gender discrimination. I believe I read once that women are outpacing men in all degree types now, except perhaps the M.D. degree. Many women are the primary bread-winners in many households. Violence toward any woman, just because they are a woman is always unjustified and should not be tolerated and as long as there continues to be discrimination, there will be some to justify their acts as if they are somehow sub-human or property.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby SamKR » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:47 pm

Signed.

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for that brave young woman.

and
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for all other women and men who have gone through similar violence of immoral people in that region and around the world.
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Postby Pax » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:19 pm

Signed.

That poor young woman. :heart:
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Yana » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:04 am

Just a little update: the men who gang raped that poor woman on a bus in New Delhi have been charged! http://bostonglobe.com/2013/01/03/men-c ... story.html

Am so happy!Am so furious you know,hit a straight ten on the Richter Scale when i heard about it.Their even thinking of handing down the death penalty.and i know it's wrong to want other beings to suffer but,grr..this one's getting no symphaty from me.Can you believe even their appointed lawyers will not defend them given their henious crime.To be honest I think the death penalty 's too easy for them.they should be tortured.just kidding.not really.

rapists are the lowest scum in my book.Literally i have more respect for murderers and terrorists in guantamo bay.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby SamKR » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:40 am

Yana wrote:Just a little update: the men who gang raped that poor woman on a bus in New Delhi have been charged! http://bostonglobe.com/2013/01/03/men-c ... story.html

Am so happy!Am so furious you know,hit a straight ten on the Richter Scale when i heard about it.Their even thinking of handing down the death penalty.and i know it's wrong to want other beings to suffer but,grr..this one's getting no symphaty from me.Can you believe even their appointed lawyers will not defend them given their henious crime.To be honest I think the death penalty 's too easy for them.they should be tortured.just kidding.not really.

rapists are the lowest scum in my book.Literally i have more respect for murderers and terrorists in guantamo bay.

Thanks for the update, Yana.
Here is a recent news about the sixth accused: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 878262.cms
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby cooran » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:19 am

Hello all,

Perhaps this is worth considering - a difficult subject for practice at this time:

The Elimination of Anger
With two stories retold from the Buddhist texts by Ven. K. Piyatissa Thera
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... bl068.html

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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:41 am

Yana wrote:Just a little update: the men who gang raped that poor woman on a bus in New Delhi have been charged! http://bostonglobe.com/2013/01/03/men-c ... story.html

Am so happy!Am so furious you know,hit a straight ten on the Richter Scale when i heard about it.Their even thinking of handing down the death penalty.and i know it's wrong to want other beings to suffer but,grr..this one's getting no symphaty from me.Can you believe even their appointed lawyers will not defend them given their henious crime.To be honest I think the death penalty 's too easy for them.they should be tortured.just kidding.not really.

rapists are the lowest scum in my book.Literally i have more respect for murderers and terrorists in guantamo bay.


Very good. I read with satisfaction that more female police officers will be taking care of victims now, since all male officers seem to come up is telling victims to find a private settlement with their attackers. LMAO...how ridicilous is that???

Would they tell a robbed man to find a private settlement with the robbers, too? Hahahahahaha.....pathetic.

I really enjoyed reading this:

In a sign attitudes might be changing, and that even powerful men are being held accountable, police in the northeastern state of Assam arrested a leader of the ruling Congress party Thursday on accusations he raped a woman in a village in the early hours of the morning.

Footage on Indian television showed the extraordinary scene of local women surrounding the man, ripping off his shirt and repeatedly slapping him across the face.

Police said the man, Bikram Singh Brahma, was visiting the village of Santipur on the Bhutan border when he entered a woman’s house and raped her at 2 a.m. Amid the screams, villagers ran to the home and captured the man, said G.P. Singh, a senior police officer in the area.


I find this sentence worthy some more of our attention:

The attack caused outrage across India, where women are routinely subject to everything from catcalls to assaults. Many say they fear being outside at night.


Seriously, I too am afraid.

Know the nature of the beast....that's all I say.

If you know, that some men are willing and able to rape, and that they don't only live in big cities, then you better know the deal.

After the horse ran away it's too late to lock the stable, caution is the mother of the procellain box.

You don't want an elefant trampling around in your temple, would you?

So make sure he can't get in.

I escaped 2 attempted rapes, each time I was in mortal fear, each time I was saved by incredibly fortunate circumstances, but the unspeakable shock I went though has marked me.

I've become even more cautious since.

The Buddha said: "What do you expect?"

Expect the nature of man and better be cautious.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Mr Man » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:13 am

Annapurna wrote:
and better be cautious.

Unfortunately I think that is all we can do. The nature of trust and what it really means is difficult. The total horror of so much that is happaning is beyond comprehension. Malevolence is most definitely real.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Kusala » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:13 am

Yana wrote:Just a little update: the men who gang raped that poor woman on a bus in New Delhi have been charged! http://bostonglobe.com/2013/01/03/men-c ... story.html

Am so happy!Am so furious you know,hit a straight ten on the Richter Scale when i heard about it.Their even thinking of handing down the death penalty.and i know it's wrong to want other beings to suffer but,grr..this one's getting no symphaty from me.Can you believe even their appointed lawyers will not defend them given their henious crime.To be honest I think the death penalty 's too easy for them.they should be tortured.just kidding.not really.

rapists are the lowest scum in my book.Literally i have more respect for murderers and terrorists in guantamo bay.



Verse 131 from the Dhammapada:

"He who, desirous of happiness for himself, torments with a rod others who are likewise seeking enjoyment, shall not obtain happiness in the hereafter."
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Mawkish1983 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:39 am

Annapurna wrote:Expect the nature of man and better be cautious.
Not all men are rapists.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Yana » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:55 am

Annapurna wrote:
Seriously, I too am afraid.

Know the nature of the beast....that's all I say.

I escaped 2 attempted rapes, each time I was in mortal fear, each time I was saved by incredibly fortunate circumstances, but the unspeakable shock I went though has marked me.

I've become even more cautious since.

The Buddha said: "What do you expect?"

Expect the nature of man and better be cautious.


Dear Annapurna, I'm so RELIEVED your alright :heart: :hug: I hope you never have to go through that again.i know not all men are rapists,but my father always taught me not to take any chances. :smile:

It's good being cautious but i mean,it's also better to teach them a lesson by calling for a heavy sentence like the Death penalty.You teach one you teach them all.A heavier sentence can help them see the seriousness of this issue. Especially when it's deeply embedded in a culture or society.Nobodies going to take you seriously."Don't rape women"...'pshh like whatever"..not only can you rape them but they'll save you the trouble by commiting suicide.This is just outrages.Something gotta be done.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:04 pm

Mr Man wrote:
Annapurna wrote:
and better be cautious.

Unfortunately I think that is all we can do. The nature of trust and what it really means is difficult. The total horror of so much that is happaning is beyond comprehension. Malevolence is most definitely real.
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Oh, yes, absolutely. And you never know who's up to what...especially psychopaths are deceptive and often charming.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:06 pm

Kusala wrote:
Yana wrote:Just a little update: the men who gang raped that poor woman on a bus in New Delhi have been charged! http://bostonglobe.com/2013/01/03/men-c ... story.html

Am so happy!Am so furious you know,hit a straight ten on the Richter Scale when i heard about it.Their even thinking of handing down the death penalty.and i know it's wrong to want other beings to suffer but,grr..this one's getting no symphaty from me.Can you believe even their appointed lawyers will not defend them given their henious crime.To be honest I think the death penalty 's too easy for them.they should be tortured.just kidding.not really.

rapists are the lowest scum in my book.Literally i have more respect for murderers and terrorists in guantamo bay.



Verse 131 from the Dhammapada:

"He who, desirous of happiness for himself, torments with a rod others who are likewise seeking enjoyment, shall not obtain happiness in the hereafter."


Yes, yes...I am curious what the punishment will be, for those 6 men. If it's capital punishment, that would be "inheriting karma" real fast.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:12 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:
Annapurna wrote:Expect the nature of man and better be cautious.
Not all men are rapists.


Obviously.

I also didn't say they are, I said this:

If you know, that some men are willing and able to rape, and that they don't only live in big cities, then you better know the deal.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:23 pm

Yana wrote:
Annapurna wrote:
Seriously, I too am afraid.

Know the nature of the beast....that's all I say.

I escaped 2 attempted rapes, each time I was in mortal fear, each time I was saved by incredibly fortunate circumstances, but the unspeakable shock I went though has marked me.

I've become even more cautious since.

The Buddha said: "What do you expect?"

Expect the nature of man and better be cautious.


Dear Annapurna, I'm so RELIEVED your alright :heart: :hug: I hope you never have to go through that again.i know not all men are rapists,but my father always taught me not to take any chances. :smile:

It's good being cautious but i mean,it's also better to teach them a lesson by calling for a heavy sentence like the Death penalty.You teach one you teach them all.A heavier sentence can help them see the seriousness of this issue. Especially when it's deeply embedded in a culture or society.Nobodies going to take you seriously."Don't rape women"...'pshh like whatever"..not only can you rape them but they'll save you the trouble by commiting suicide.This is just outrages.Something gotta be done.


Thank you, my dear. :hug:

Yes, mild punishments create the impression it's not a big crime. So, I think this might become an exemplary case, and the outrage of the public will probably be wild, if it's not the most severe penalty possible.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Mawkish1983 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:35 pm

Annapurna wrote:
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Annapurna wrote:Expect the nature of man and better be cautious.
Not all men are rapists.
Obviously. I also didn't say they are
Okay, why associate this 'nature of man' with the 'nature of a rapist'? I suspect, in fact, that the majority of men, even the vast majority of men, would never even imagine themselves in a situation where they would commit such an abhorrent act. I suspect the vast majority of men are strongly opposed to rape.

There are also, of course, cases of men suffering sexual abuse at the hands of women. To suggest that one should be cautious of the 'nature of man' is plainly, simply, wrong.

I thought it was worth saying.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Mr Man » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:58 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote: To suggest that one should be cautious of the 'nature of man' is plainly, simply, wrong.



I'm not sure if it is but I don't think this is really the place to go into it.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:52 pm

Mr Man wrote:
Mawkish1983 wrote: To suggest that one should be cautious of the 'nature of man' is plainly, simply, wrong.



I'm not sure if it is but I don't think this is really the place to go into it.


Thank you, Mr.Man. I think it isn't.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Yana » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:43 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:
I thought it was worth saying.
um..no not really.
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Re: "She wanted to LIVE" R.I.P. "Braveheart"

Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:46 pm

Mawkish1983 wrote:Okay, why associate this 'nature of man' with the 'nature of a rapist'? I suspect, in fact, that the majority of men, even the vast majority of men, would never even imagine themselves in a situation where they would commit such an abhorrent act. I suspect the vast majority of men are strongly opposed to rape.

There are also, of course, cases of men suffering sexual abuse at the hands of women. To suggest that one should be cautious of the 'nature of man' is plainly, simply, wrong.

I thought it was worth saying.


Mawkish,

you think that, because you assumed that I am equating "the nature of man" with "rapist", but I wouldn't be so stupid, nor anybody else here, I am sure of that.

Read in context, my post was very clear that "SOME" are able to.

This implies, that others are NOT.

I didn't expand on "the nature of man", because I thought it was obvious what was meant.

The sex drive.

Not all men can control it.

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