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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 010813.php
"Our study reveals that causality can be computed at an early level in the visual system," said Martin Rolfs, who conducted much of the research as a post-doctoral fellow in NYU's Department of Psychology. "This finding ends a long-standing debate over how some visual events are processed: we show that our eyes can quickly make assessments about cause-and-effect—without the help of our cognitive systems."
The finding, the researchers concluded, provides strong evidence that in some cases, the understanding of action – causality, animacy, and intention – is encoded on a perceptual level rather than on a cognitive one.
"There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya
[kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
"Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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