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U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:28 am
by Kusala
Hello Dhamma friends. What do you make of this?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/u-s-marines ... -1.1121189" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:31 am
by Khalil Bodhi
Sounds like miccha-samadhi to me... :shrug:

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:41 am
by danieLion
Mindful harm? Ludicrous.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:45 am
by pilgrim
Meditation to make them more efficient at being soldiers? I agree with Khalil. It may be meditation , but with impure motives, it is not Samma -Samadhi and does not lead to Panna.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:13 am
by alan
The title is incorrect. They are trying to find ways to reduce stress, in order to produce more effective soldiers.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:30 am
by Kim OHara
alan wrote:The title is incorrect. They are trying to find ways to reduce stress, in order to produce more effective soldiers.
Absolutely correct.
Will it work? Probably.
Could they use Buddhist-derived techniques to make the guys better soldiers instead? Probably. Look at the samurai tradition, or at Shaolin.

Is any of this going to lead Marines to enlightenment? Not very likely at all.

:coffee:
Kim

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:13 pm
by yawares
alan wrote:The title is incorrect. They are trying to find ways to reduce stress, in order to produce more effective soldiers.
Dear Alan,

You're very smart to point out the key issue. My daughter always emails me how meditation help her to be calm during complicate surgeries..to be peaceful while station in foreign countries for a long time..to deal with all her patients/colleagues.

BUT..MY DAUGHTER NOT ONLY PRACTICE MEDITATION..SHE ALSO OBSERVES 5 PRECEPTS AND READ BUDDHA'S VERSES/UDANAS/ITIVUTAKAS/DHAMMAPADA STORIES....she said that "not to lie" is the hardest precept to keep...sometimes she has to say "white lies' just to make people not mad/upset/worry...or lie to make people happy.

:anjali: Meditation will work well with people who have silas/panna :anjali:

I think I should mail her a beautiful gemstone-mala to count Buddho 1...Buddho 2....right now she does breath-in/breath out technique that her dad taught her to do :heart:

*******
yawares :heart:

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:58 pm
by m0rl0ck
Sounds like a positive development. I think they are likely to notice some (to them) deleterious side effects long term, i.e increased compassion for their enemies and increased capacity for independent thinking.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:51 am
by yawares
m0rl0ck wrote:Sounds like a positive development. I think they are likely to notice some (to them) deleterious side effects long term, i.e increased compassion for their enemies and increased capacity for independent thinking.
Dear "m0rl0ck",

I think USA is the best country in term of "compassion"...everywhere my daughter stationed..she told me about how her doctors-team took care of wounded local people in Afghanistan especially children who played near bomb-mine-field...did physical exams for more than 600 children in Philippines/giving medicines(free)...took care of Haitian victims(earthquake) in Haiti...YES! YES! USA ALWAYS THERE TO HELP PEOPLE IN TROUBLE :twothumbsup: :anjali:

I hope USA military not just provide 'how to do meditation' ...because MEDITATION will work well with people who have silas/panna !!!!
yawares :anjali:

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:22 pm
by m0rl0ck
Dont beleive the propaganda. We are bankrupting the planet. The next time we need oil it may be your turn.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:08 pm
by yawares
m0rl0ck wrote:Dont beleive the propaganda. We are bankrupting the planet. The next time we need oil it may be your turn.
Dear "m0rl0ck",

I love USA and very proud that my daughter works for the US Air Force..we're proud to be Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXLQ2RPLO78" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yawares :anjali: :heart:

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:28 pm
by m0rl0ck
Sorry, didnt know you were natives. Love your country, fear your government.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:30 am
by alan
No need to fear. Obama is back, and better than ever. We're learning. Eventually, America will be the country it should be.

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:23 am
by Kim OHara
alan wrote:No need to fear. Obama is back, and better than ever. We're learning. Eventually, America will be the country it should be.
:toast:
I wonder how many Americans realise that the rest of the world is pathetically grateful that you guys re-elected him?

:namaste:
Kim

Re: U.S. Marines studying how meditation could make them tougher

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:54 pm
by yawares
alan wrote:No need to fear. Obama is back, and better than ever. We're learning. Eventually, America will be the country it should be.
Dear Alan,

For you :anjali: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2rDCnr0eYc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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:heart: yawares/tidathep :heart: