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Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

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Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby manas » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:22 am

Hi all,

I'm not very tech savvy, so I thought I would ask for some assistance, from those who are.

For a variety of reasons, it isn't good for me to have an Internet connection at home right now. But I got an idea: I could get an 'e-reader' (or some such device) that, while not being able to access the Internet - preferably incapable of doing so - can, however, be plugged into one of those external hard drives which can hold a vast amount of information. I could put into it the entire ATI website (for example), pali learning aids, the entire pali canon...many possibilities. So, I would go to the local library (which is where I am typing this post from), download stuff onto the external HDrive, and build up a vast library of useful, wholesome information that I could then take home, to be accessed at will. It would become like a vast, searchable library, without the need for an entire roomful of actual, paper books.

Ok, the three main questions: is there an e-reader (or similar device) that would be able to 1.not be able access the Internet at all, yet 2. properly be able to display pali fonts (in the manner of the ATI site, for example; and without scrambling up or putting a box in place of certain letters, as I have seen done on my old phone sometimes, and 3. be able to be plugged in to one of those external hard drives that can hold masses of information. :?:

Thanks for reading. I actually don't care what the device is, or what it's called. I just want something which can become a kind of internet substitute, a private gold-mine of information that I can search and enjoy from home. (And something affordable - forgot to mention that one...) Ok that's the entire wish-list now :)

:anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:14 am

You could easily just get a laptop and pay like 20 bucks to have the internet functionality removed. Would that work?
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby Ben » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:22 am

Hi manas,
I have a kindle touch and iPad mini (which I am in currently).
You cannot beat the screen resolution of the kindle and it is very easy to use. With the wifi connection, you can get onto the wifi network at your library and, if you so desire, purchase books from amazon. It takes about one minute to download a purchased book. The downside to the kindle is that reading other formats can be difficult to impossible. You can get around it by downloading calibre which is an e book manager and hosting that on your home computer, which will allow you to convert PDFs and ePub format files to mobi.
I recently received an iPad mini as a gift. The iPad is much more than an e-reader, and its added functionality is nothing to sneeze at. It's incredibly versatile and I do love using mine. As an e-reader, the screen resolution is not as good as the kindle, but it has an illuminated screen, where-as the kindle requires lighting (book light or lamp). The upside of the iPad is that you can download adobe acrobat for iPad which allows you to read your PDF documents very easily.
My kids have the google nexus tablets and they love using and reading from their tablets. It has a similar functionality to iPad but are cheaper.
With any e-reader or tablet, I think you will need to have a home computer to either transfer files from your external hard drive and help manage your content. For both iPad and kindle you can sync between devices so that your books are available to you on your computer, iPad/kindle and smartphone. And if you have Internet access, you can have access anywhere.
I hope that helps.
Kind regards,
Ben
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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby manas » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:52 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby Ben » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:42 am

If I were you, I would deal with your Internet addiction a little differently, by exerting self control rather than move the internet off the property. Put it back on but limit yourself to an hour a day. By confronting your addiction head-on, you will probably have greater success than avoiding the Internet at home altogether.
Personally, I wouldn't use a public computer to search or transfer files. I think you are going to have some difficulty finding a tablet that will take files directly from an external hard drive. Checkout the functionality of google's nexus and the nook, as they may be able to do what you require.
Kind regards,
Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby Mawkish1983 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:44 am

Yeah, with the Nexus 7 I know you can transfer files from some external drives using an OTG cable, but the Nexus also allows connection to the internet. I suppose the WiFi only model would be fine if you had no WiFi at home.

I am, however, in agreement with Ben here. Avoidance isn't the best way to deal with a problem.

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby James the Giant » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:21 pm

Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby Mawkish1983 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:34 pm

Just get a second hand one because modifying the hardware will obviously invalidate the warranty :)

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby manas » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:03 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby manas » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:10 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby marc108 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:14 am

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby tsurezuregusa » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:22 pm

Hello manas,

I am using a Amazon Kindle e-reader. The new generation has background lighting too.

There are two ways to get external pdfs on your kindle. You can connect it via USB to a computer and just drag&drop the pds onto your Kindle. Or, you go through your Kindle email-address. Using this way you can also convert the pdf file to a mobi-file.

I have used my Kindle for reading Chinese script and that works well, but I am not sure about Pali script.

The Kindle is able to access the Internet, but nobody is doing it except downloading new books from Amazon. It is definetly not a device for Internet surfing.

Kind regards,
Florian

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Re: Advice requested re e-readers (or equivalent)

Postby manas » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:58 pm

Thank you also, marc and tsure, for your advice. I think I have a fair bit to look into now...
:anjali:
Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."


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