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Xtian fundies

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:19 am

I'll make no comment because likely if I do I'll violate the TOS.

http://world.time.com/2013/03/08/good-l ... -tibetans/
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby Reductor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:45 am

Fundamental Christians don't ever give up. Pwee! (that's me spitting. Cute, huh?)

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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:11 am

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby James the Giant » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:00 am

I dunno, seems like a legitimate tactic to me.
From their perspective there's nothing wrong with it, and I can't see much unwholesomeness from where I'm sitting either.
They just believe different stuff and want others to discover the same belief.
They're not killing anyone... Maybe damaging a culture though.
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:12 am

James the Giant wrote:I dunno, seems like a legitimate tactic to me.
From their perspective there's nothing wrong with it, and I can't see much unwholesomeness from where I'm sitting either.
They just believe different stuff and want others to discover the same belief.
They're not killing anyone... Maybe damaging a culture though.
Maybe damaging a culture? Very likely and very profoundly. As for not being unwholesome, yes, well, from the perspective of those who burned heretics at the stake, just another day doing the work of the Prince of Peace and the God of Love. For these evangelizing people what they are doing is seen and talked about as war -- and they do use terms of warfare -- against their devil, a wholesome and meritorious way to act. Blameless, I am sure they are, to be rewarded by their god with eternal bliss for all the souls they have saved from eternal damnation. Wholesome? Probably not.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:25 am

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby plwk » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:45 am

Tilt..can you stop posting stuff that reminds me of my dear mom.... :lol:
Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby pilgrim » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:46 am

James the Giant wrote:I dunno, seems like a legitimate tactic to me.
From their perspective there's nothing wrong with it, and I can't see much unwholesomeness from where I'm sitting either.
They just believe different stuff and want others to discover the same belief.
They're not killing anyone... Maybe damaging a culture though.

Damaging a culture is understating it. I know of cases in Cambodia where families and sometimes entire villages have been split. Young children in orphanages are taught that giving alms to monks is evil, etc. In N.E India in the states of Mizoram and Nagaland, christian fundies have formed their own army. Temples of ethnic tribes have been razed. .
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby daverupa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:02 am

James the Giant wrote:I can't see much unwholesomeness from where I'm sitting either.


It's wrong intention; acquisitive (converts, souls, personal virtue, etc.) and ill-willed (a function of 'they are wrong, I/we are right') and harmful (Xianity as an emotive ideological assault as opposed to arising in a mutual environment of inquiry).
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby Kim OHara » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:47 am

tiltbillings wrote:I'll make no comment because likely if I do I'll violate the TOS.

http://world.time.com/2013/03/08/good-l ... -tibetans/

You have not only made comments which (IMO) violate the TOS but by posting the original article you implicitly encouraged others to do so. The whole thread is reminding me of proverbs about pots and kettles, and glass houses and stones.
If you don't like what people are doing, for goodness' sake tell them - don't start a gripe session they will never even hear about.

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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby daverupa » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:52 am

Consider the article a prompt for the brahmaviharas, then. It needn't be taken as a gripe session.
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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Re: Xtian fundies

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:11 pm

This is closed before it goes totally apepoop.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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