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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:10 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:26 pm

I didn't really understand a lot of that post. There is not one story that describes all climate change.

The story for the recurring ice-ages / deglaciations as seen in the Vostek ice cores is this:
1) For some time, there was a relatively constant temps during the ice age.
2) Due to changes in the Earth's orbit, there was a small to moderate amount of global warming.
3) This caused CO2 to be released from the ocean into the atmosphere.
4) releasing CO2 caused more warming, which caused more release of CO2
5) This continued until there was another period of relatively constant temps during the interglacial.

Then the reverse happened:
6) As Earth's orbital characteristics continued to change, there was a small to moderate amount of global cooling.
7) This caused CO2 to be stored in the ocean
8) This caused greenhouse effect to be weakened, which lowered temps further, which caused more CO2 to be stored in oceans.
9) This continued until there was another period of relatively constant temps during the ice-age

For AGW, the story is different:
1) Due to human activity, CO2 is released from deep earth sources (coal, oil, gas) leading to warming

The temerature change predicted by AGW is not nearly as large as happened during the natural cycles of glaciation / deglaciation. What concerns us is how rapidly it will happen and how it will affect our food stores and habitats.
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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:28 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:24 am

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Re: global warming

Postby manas » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:56 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

Postby manas » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:27 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: global warming

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:21 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:51 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby Alex123 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:44 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: global warming

Postby SDC » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:06 am

Hey all, what's this thread about?! :tongue:

I'll tell you one thing, all the excess body heat being generated from y'all's passion for this issue may be what is making this earth hotter. Here's to global cooling :toast:

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^^^East coast of the US, btw

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:36 am

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:37 am

Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: global warming

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:40 am

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