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A drug that helps meditating ?

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

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Postby SDC » Thu May 23, 2013 2:53 pm

Classic trolling.

Easily the dumbest thread ever.

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby marc108 » Thu May 23, 2013 3:19 pm

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby Zenainder » Thu May 23, 2013 4:38 pm

Not to mention, attachment to any object is refrained from fundamentally in Buddhism. Dxm is the same. It is likely the euphoric fascination has dxm delusioned and enchanted in his thinking that an exterior substance has progressed his sense of spirituality --- directly violated the very basics of Buddhism. Alas, sometimes it takes folly to wake us up I suppose.

Hoping for your protection dxm, a dangerous drug is still dangerous to the body.
May you discover the true peace / bliss within along with right samadhi!
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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby EmptyShadow » Thu May 23, 2013 8:13 pm

Hi DXM,
would you post a link to the meditation instructions you are using? Also could you describe in more details your experience of the jhana when you dont use the drug.Also how long it takes you to enter it, how long you can stay in it and most important, why dont you practice the jhana every time without the drug, if you have learned how to do it? :smile:

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby marc108 » Thu May 23, 2013 9:16 pm

"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby Zimesky » Fri May 24, 2013 12:39 am

What on earth have you actually attained if you can't do this without a hallucinogen. There are drastic changes that these kinds of drugs do to your brain. Your body naturally produces serotonin to dream/sleep. If you introduce something into your system that takes over this process or puts it in over drive, you risk the brain completely shutting the natural process down. The human body is ruthless with this kind of thing... It's why astronauts start losing bone mass in space, the body thinks, "WELL, I don't have this gravity thing I have to constantly struggle against, I'll just stop repairing bone structure" It worries me greatly that you take this drug, if your brain stops creating Serotonin naturally, and you stop taking this drug you risk become INTENSELY depressed.

How can you be sure you even have any attainments, perhaps your mind is tricking yourself into thinking you've attained something because that's what it desires. I have had reoccurring dreams over many years in which I can play the guitar and draw VERY well. When I wake up I haven't gained any skill in either of them though. Please re-think your use of this drug. At the very least think about the saying "If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is, OR , Anything worth having is worth working for.

Be well

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby Crazy cloud » Fri May 24, 2013 5:16 am

your name Mori means forest like the infinite fresh green distances of your blindness

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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby Ben » Fri May 24, 2013 8:23 am

Greetings everyone,

After reading some members concerns regarding this thread, we have decided to close it down.
Despite what the OP has stated, he is engaging in promoting the use of an intoxicating pharmaceutical that has been known to cause liver damage in users.
The promotion of behaviour that is clearly in breach of the precepts and is harmful, and may be illegal in certain jurisdictions is not condoned by David, myself and the Dhamma Wheel moderation team. The drug use "discussed" by the OP is completely contrary to the spirit and letter of the Theravada. There are no short-cuts on the path of Dhamma which require the development of sila, samadhi and panna.
kind regards,

Ben
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Re: A drug that helps meditating ?

Postby Ben » Fri May 24, 2013 8:38 am

PS: I want to thank those members who expressed their concerns via the report function regarding this thread, as well as those who attempted to counter the OPs suggested practice on this thread.
with metta,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..


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