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Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby plwk » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:06 am

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10. A man’s place is in the workforce, where he can earn money to donate to nuns
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Bhikkhus, if you develop and make much this one thing,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.
What is it? It is recollecting the Enlightened One.
If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby cooran » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:50 am

Hehehehe. :jumping: :rofl:

Some men, a few men - not all men. Is there one about women?

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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby Crazy cloud » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:24 am

Nice warmup before match ... :tongue:
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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:27 am

Maybe satirists shouldn't be ordained? :stirthepot:
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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby BlackBird » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:55 am

Are you joking Bhante? It's not clear.
"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby binocular » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:38 am

Things get bad when a person loses the sense of humor ...
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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:18 pm

:clap: Excellent!

May Ajahn Sujato be reborn as an enlightened bhikkhuni.

Humor is good, but seriously, I sometimes think there might be less scandals with a greater proportion of females as monastics. It certainly has been too male dominated for some time now, which is fortunately changing now.
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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby perkele » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:57 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Maybe satirists shouldn't be ordained? :stirthepot:

Yes, Bhante. It is very hard often nowadays to discern what is really serious. But I think you are actually being considerate here by sharing awareness and inviting wholesome discussion.

Because Bhante Sujato is well-liked. And many people might share their supportive thoughts for him with consideration, from which one can learn.

So David did this:
Excellent!

May Ajahn Sujato be reborn as an enlightened bhikkhuni.

Humor is good, but seriously, I sometimes think there might be less scandals with a greater proportion of females as monastics. It certainly has been too male dominated for some time now, which is fortunately changing now.


Sadhu!
Thank you for sharing your awareness!
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Although I rather wish for him that he may attain in this lifetime the peace of Nibbana, since great effort he has really done!

And thanks to Bhante Sujato for sharing his ideas, for the goodness in it must also be rightly acknowledged, and I think behind them there is some sincere consideration.

So thanks again for raising wholesome awareness!

Bhante Sujato in a previous post shares a gift that he received from a bhikkhuni, Adhimutta, and I will quote some sentences out of context from her blog:

(quotes in bold)

"When things are working well they are almost not noticed."
And this is true with the Bhikkhunis in some ways probably and we have to learn right acknowledgement.

"What seems normal and natural, if we don’t take good care to keep the causes and conditions strong, can become distant and unattainable."
This is very true. We must learn to be aware.


Maybe I will think to share some awareness about this, although I don't have much here.

Maybe it is good to invite in this place our good friend starter, who, I think has much awareness for such things.


Let us share wholesome awareness!
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Re: Why Buddhist men shouldn’t be ordained

Postby BlackBird » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:54 am

I think Bhante Sujato is a great monk, a good teacher and a friendly, humble and down to earth individual. All my dialogue with him has been extremely positive, I wish there were more people like him in the world, it would be a better place for it :)
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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta
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