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Aussie election: Democracy in action?

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Aussie election: Democracy in action?

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby manas » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:16 am

Hi Kim,

no, it's the Murdochcracy in action... :P

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:23 am

Greetings,

Why An Abbott Election Victory Would Be Good
https://www.thevine.com.au/life/news/wh ... 05-264996/

P.S. Vote Green! (especially in the senate - once the final lay of the land is known, we'll see just how important the senate will be) :mrgreen:

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby dagon » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:28 am

There is only one valid question in this election - who are you going to vote against.

To paraphase the old saying that:
democracy is like two wolves and a sheep deciding on what they are going to have for dinner
my words - 2 media owners and a conscience deciding what we are going to think :shrug:

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby dagon » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:40 am

Edit due to duplication of post

I wonder if i could get away with doing that when i vote, lol

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Dan74 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:32 am

A quick perusal of the vine article and so far I agree completely - I've been saying the same thing for ages (even before Rudd).

I am not surprised that people are voting for the Libs, even though I shudder at the consequences. Labor has really squandered its chance, not that it was given much of a chance by the media, it is true. And I hope they ban the incessant polls. Why do we need polls? We have a representative democracy (supposedly), the MPs should have an ear to the ground. The polls create a feedback loop where the constant reporting of the polls actually influences the next poll. This is a perversion of democracy. I also wonder about methodology - apparently some still call landlines - who has landlines now??

Anyway, :toilet:

PS Had a chat with one of the Wikileaks guys who is a colleague yesterday morning. We need a way forward.
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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:32 am

During this election campaign more than any other time I have thought seriously about getting more involved in political action and joining The Greens.
Unfortunately, only recently I had to cancel my modest monthly donations to the UNHCR due to my personal financial situation.
It is expected that Abbott will win in a landslide (in the House). One can only hope that he is constrained by sensible opposition in the Senate.
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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:34 am

Greetings Ben,

Well, handing out the how to vote cards today was good fun!

It's funny... it's something that once would have been outside my comfort zone, but today I felt I was in my element.

:thumbsup:

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:59 am

Yeah, perhaps when I am more financial I'll join The Greens.
Unfortunately due to my ongoing financial situation I recently had to stop my monthly donation to the UNHCR.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
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Learn this from the waters:
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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:30 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:03 am

Thanks guys.
I just turned the ABC back on and as expected - a change of govt is in progress.
I would have liked to help out today but was feeling very unwell the last 24+ hours.
Your public spirit is admirable.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:06 am

Greetings Kim,

:goodpost:

Sounds a lot like my day.

The guy handing out Palmer fliers admitted he was really a Labor voter, but the local Palmer candidate was his sumo wrestling teacher. :lol:

The volunteers were all respectful of each other - appreciating each other's passion for their beliefs, in bright contrast to the apathy and/or despondence of a large portion of voters.

Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:08 am

And now for a wee bit of classic Michael Leunig...

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Ben » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:57 am

Tony Abbott's victory speech (unedited).

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

Postby Dan74 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:37 pm

Good work, folks! Hopefully this will give time for the other guys to sort themselves out and recall what they are about.
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Re: Aussie election: Democracy in action?

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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