What is "truth" and "good"?

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What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:47 am

As the title says, what is "truth" and what is"good"?


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"Oh, threats of Hell and Hopes of Paradise!
One thing at least is certain — This Life flies;
One thing is certain and the rest is Lies;
The Flower that once has blown, forever dies."
Omar Khayyám

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby SarathW » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:57 am

Conventional or unconventional?

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:09 am

SarathW wrote:Conventional or unconventional?



Both?
"Oh, threats of Hell and Hopes of Paradise!
One thing at least is certain — This Life flies;
One thing is certain and the rest is Lies;
The Flower that once has blown, forever dies."
Omar Khayyám

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby chownah » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:26 am

The Canki Sutta talks about truth. MN95.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .nymo.html

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby chownah » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:35 am

Also, MN140 The Analysis of the Properties has this:

"His release, being founded on truth, does not fluctuate, for whatever is deceptive is false; Unbinding — the undeceptive — is true. Thus a monk so endowed is endowed with the highest determination for truth, for this — Unbinding, the undeceptive — is the highest noble truth.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

The deceptive is false, the undeceptive is true.
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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:39 am

chownah wrote:Also, MN140 The Analysis of the Properties has this:

"His release, being founded on truth, does not fluctuate, for whatever is deceptive is false; Unbinding — the undeceptive — is true. Thus a monk so endowed is endowed with the highest determination for truth, for this — Unbinding, the undeceptive — is the highest noble truth.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

The deceptive is false, the undeceptive is true.
chownah



But what does truth mean?
"Oh, threats of Hell and Hopes of Paradise!
One thing at least is certain — This Life flies;
One thing is certain and the rest is Lies;
The Flower that once has blown, forever dies."
Omar Khayyám

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby chownah » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:51 am

I guess "truth" means "the portion of the body of experience which is not deceptive."
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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby SarathW » Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:56 am

clw_uk wrote:
SarathW wrote:Conventional or unconventional?



Both?


Conventional sense:
Anything wholesome to you and others is good. Truth is the dependent origination. (four noble truths, karma, rebirth, Nirvana etc)

Unconventional sense:
Unconditioned is the truth and good. (From the vantage point of conventional sense)

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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby Leon-nl » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:53 pm


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Re: What is "truth" and "good"?

Postby SarathW » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:54 am

Leon-nl wrote:http://www.buddhanet.net/cmdsg/kamma2.htm


Good link.
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