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Postby SDC » Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:53 pm

^^^That episode was classic!
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Postby Modus.Ponens » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:21 pm

:smile:
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:13 pm

That would be a deal killer, along with tobacco, drugs, and alcohol.
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby m0rl0ck » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:37 pm

:jumping:

So the republican is open minded enough to be involved with a liberal but not vice versa?
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:47 pm

m0rl0ck wrote::jumping:

So the republican is open minded enough to be involved with a liberal but not vice versa?
It depends.


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Postby rohana » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:38 am

"Delighting in existence, O monks, are gods and men; they are attached to existence, they revel in existence. When the Dhamma for the cessation of existence is being preached to them, their minds do not leap towards it, do not get pleased with it, do not get settled in it, do not find confidence in it. That is how, monks, some lag behind."
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby appicchato » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:54 am

The Daily Show. Good gawd!! Great, biting satire and commentary at times, but hardly a basis for a careful, considered criticism.


Au contraire...
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Postby tiltbillings » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:57 am

appicchato wrote:
The Daily Show. Good gawd!! Great, biting satire and commentary at times, but hardly a basis for a careful, considered criticism.


Au contraire...
That is less than helpful. Which part are you being contrary to?
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Postby appicchato » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:00 am

...the first African-American elected president...


Uhhh...dude's half Caucasian...next... :popcorn:
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Postby tiltbillings » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:05 am

appicchato wrote:
...the first African-American elected president...


Uhhh...dude's half Caucasian...next... :popcorn:
Dude? Seriously? Well, this "dude" is also half African and was primarily raised in the United States. In the United States, even being halfies, he is considered African American, and he so identifies himself. Next, indeed.
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Postby chownah » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:00 am

He might consider himself to be African American but he is deluded so what does he know?
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Postby Ben » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:25 am

chownah wrote:He might consider himself to be African American but he is deluded so what does he know?
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I have no idea what you mean by this statement, chownah.
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Postby tiltbillings » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:44 am

Ben wrote:
chownah wrote:He might consider himself to be African American but he is deluded so what does he know?
chownah


I have no idea what you mean by this statement, chownah.
Give him a break. He is trying to be funny, again.
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby chownah » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:53 am

Ben wrote:
chownah wrote:He might consider himself to be African American but he is deluded so what does he know?
chownah


I have no idea what you mean by this statement, chownah.

I guess then that having no idea, your mind is at peace.
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby chownah » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:54 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Ben wrote:
chownah wrote:He might consider himself to be African American but he is deluded so what does he know?
chownah


I have no idea what you mean by this statement, chownah.
Give him a break. He is trying to be funny, again.

That's funny!......I was serious.......but not serious in a way warranting stressfulness.
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby Ben » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:05 am

chownah wrote:
Ben wrote:
chownah wrote:He might consider himself to be African American but he is deluded so what does he know?
chownah


I have no idea what you mean by this statement, chownah.

I guess then that having no idea, your mind is at peace.
chownah


Thanks, chownah.
I don't subscribe to the Orwellian maxim that "ignorance is truth"/bliss.
It's just that when you say Obama is delusional, on a Buddhist board, it's a motherhood statement. It's like saying, Obama is human. It doesn't actually mean anything unless you contextualise his 'delusion'.
Please feel free to illuminate me.
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby Mr Man » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:00 am

An idea that those who are critical of Obama are haters and that they are motivated by resentment because he is a "shining example of what they refuse to become—a civil, considerate, rational, and powerful (in his own self) human being." is an undemocratic idea.

Obama is the figure head for US policy and promoting US interests and values, which are out of sync with many. Criticism is justified and essential.
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Postby purple planet » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:38 am

An idea that those who are critical of Obama are haters and that they are motivated by resentment because he is a "shining example of what they refuse to become—a civil, considerate, rational, and powerful (in his own self) human being." is an undemocratic idea.

Obama is the figure head for US policy and promoting US interests and values, which are out of sync with many. Criticism is justified and essential.


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That is essentially what i wanted to say
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby chownah » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:47 am

Mr Man wrote:An idea that those who are critical of Obama are haters and that they are motivated by resentment because he is a "shining example of what they refuse to become—a civil, considerate, rational, and powerful (in his own self) human being." is an undemocratic idea.

Obama is the figure head for US policy and promoting US interests and values, which are out of sync with many. Criticism is justified and essential.

I agree. Those who are critical of Obama and who hate him certainly are not resentful of him because they see him as "a shining example of what they refuse to become—a civil, considerate, rational, and powerful (in his own self) human being." .....on the contrary, they see him as being quite the opposite.
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Re: Haters Holding US Hostage Embraced Denial, Resistance an

Postby Justsit » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:25 pm

chownah wrote: .. Those who are critical of Obama and who hate him certainly are not resentful of him because
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How is hate of anyone justifiable by any practitioner of Buddhadharma??
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