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Postby tiltbillings » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:38 am

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: trolls

Postby Mkoll » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:49 am

No problems with that here... :spy:
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Re: trolls

Postby rowboat » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:51 am

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: trolls

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:10 am

Remember that many trolls are in fact sock-puppets ... http://www.pasadenaadv.com/2104/flying-monkeys-sockpuppets-and-trolls-oh-my/

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Re: trolls

Postby Viscid » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:45 am

So.. the study asked people to identify themselves as trolls.. and then actually expected those self-proclaimed trolls to answer a personality profile honestly?

What stupidity.
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Re: trolls

Postby m0rl0ck » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:10 pm

Interesting links. Whats really fun is when you have mods that are trolls. There is a board that im sure will be familiar to most here where i have caught a highly visible mod with a huge post count argueing both sides of an issue in different threads just to keep the drama going :)
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Postby Ben » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:20 pm

An interesting article - thanks Tilt!
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

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sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Re: trolls

Postby barcsimalsi » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:02 am

Yet sometimes it is hard to tell a sadist from an open minded over-passionate controversialist.

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Postby Kare » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:54 am

Mettāya,
Kåre

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Postby Ben » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:17 am

A great movie, Kare.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Re: trolls

Postby tiltbillings » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:22 am

Ben wrote:A great movie, Kare.
It was a sad movie.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: trolls

Postby Ben » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:34 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Ben wrote:A great movie, Kare.
It was a sad movie.

That it was.
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Re: trolls

Postby binocular » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:41 am

barcsimalsi wrote:Yet sometimes it is hard to tell a sadist from an open minded over-passionate controversialist.

Nah. If those in positions of power call a person a troll, then that person is a troll, end of story.

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Re: trolls

Postby Aloka » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:23 am

binocular wrote:
barcsimalsi wrote:Yet sometimes it is hard to tell a sadist from an open minded over-passionate controversialist.

Nah. If those in positions of power call a person a troll, then that person is a troll, end of story.


This is a definition of an internet forum troll . Someone who is recognisable to people other than those in "positions of power" (whatever that means)


INTERNET TROLL

Web definitions

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll



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Re: trolls

Postby purple planet » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:30 am

Please send merit to my dog named Mika who has passed away - thanks in advance

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Re: trolls

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:06 pm

Aloka wrote:
INTERNET TROLL

Web definitions

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll



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An internet encyclopedia is hard to argue against but I would contend that intention is key and that anyone who accidentally provokes anger (etc) by posting material which s/he does not know is inflammatory is not a troll.
Such a person, is simply someone who has made a mistake. When told what they have done, they will normally apologise and not re-offend.
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Re: trolls

Postby Aloka » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:20 pm

Kim OHara wrote:
Aloka wrote:
INTERNET TROLL

Web definitions

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll



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An internet encyclopedia is hard to argue against but I would contend that intention is key and that anyone who accidentally provokes anger (etc) by posting material which s/he does not know is inflammatory is not a troll.
Such a person, is simply someone who has made a mistake. When told what they have done, they will normally apologise and not re-offend.
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Yes I agree - but it depends on the disposition of the person who made a mistake. Occasionally when told about it, even though they know they've made a mistake, someone can still explode with anger at being corrected!


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Re: trolls

Postby Mkoll » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:56 pm

Kim OHara wrote:
Aloka wrote:
INTERNET TROLL

Web definitions

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll



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An internet encyclopedia is hard to argue against but I would contend that intention is key and that anyone who accidentally provokes anger (etc) by posting material which s/he does not know is inflammatory is not a troll.
Such a person, is simply someone who has made a mistake. When told what they have done, they will normally apologise and not re-offend.
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I agree. It's about the intention to troll and I don't think there's such a thing as an "accidental troll". My cousin plays lots of online video games and he is a troll. He intentionally riles people up by calling them names, gloating over victories, etc. He derives pleasure from getting people angry at him over a video game.
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