Venerable Father--a Life with Ajahn Chah Have you read this?

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Postby cooran » Mon May 05, 2014 3:35 am

Hello. All,

A short previous thread on the book in question:

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Postby alan » Mon May 05, 2014 3:45 am

Just a bunch of dummies with psychological needs. Could be any other cult, as far as I'm concerned.
See no wisdom there.

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Postby tiltbillings » Mon May 05, 2014 3:52 am

alan wrote:Just a bunch of dummies with psychological needs. Could be any other cult, as far as I'm concerned.
See no wisdom there.
A lot of name calling, but nothing to back up your claim of dummy-ness.
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Postby James the Giant » Mon May 05, 2014 3:56 am

alan wrote:Just a bunch of dummies with psychological needs. Could be any other cult, as far as I'm concerned.
See no wisdom there.

And in one quick, curmudgeonly post, Alan hilariously dismisses the wisdom of Ajahns Sumedho, Amaro, Brahm, Anan, Dtun, Passanno, Piak, Viradhammo, Thiradhammo, etc etc.
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Postby Dan74 » Mon May 05, 2014 4:32 am

James the Giant wrote:
alan wrote:Just a bunch of dummies with psychological needs. Could be any other cult, as far as I'm concerned.
See no wisdom there.

And in one quick, curmudgeonly post, Alan hilariously dismisses the wisdom of Ajahns Sumedho, Amaro, Brahm, Anan, Dtun, Passanno, Piak, Viradhammo, Thiradhammo, etc etc.


:D Maybe wisdom too, is often in the eye of the beholder...?
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Postby BlackBird » Mon May 05, 2014 5:01 am

While I respect your preverbial testicles and your unerring ability to speak your mind about that which you feel the need to say Alan, I think James might be right, especially on the whole Charisma thing. I tend to sit on the fence when it comes to Ajahn Chah. But from what I gather, his style was very effective for a good number of venerable monks. Different strokes for different folks.

As for me? I read it quite a number of years ago and I remember the gist rather than the specifics. I read it at a time where I was sort of rebelling against what I saw as the deification of someone, even to the point where I felt in my mind that some placed primacy of the Ajahn over the Buddha himself, but by the end of it I think I had mellowed somewhat. Today I feel like his methods were imperfect, that he, like every human being, made mistakes, but nevertheless his teachings were effective for a certain type, and today the Wisdom of his talks are recorded for all to enjoy, and I certainly sense a Wisdom in the preacher who speaks through the words. One cannot say of the man that he didn't practice what he preached either (at least as far as I can recall).

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Postby Crazy cloud » Mon May 05, 2014 5:32 am

alan wrote:Just a bunch of dummies with psychological needs. Could be any other cult, as far as I'm concerned.
See no wisdom there.


Yeah, I agree - a bunch of misfits, just like myself - and the only cure is odd personalities in odd dresses

Isn't life great?

And now I feel compelled to buy this little book, and support that odd process - so, thanks a lot, friend :)

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Postby jameswang » Tue May 27, 2014 11:52 am

alan wrote:Just a bunch of dummies with psychological needs. Could be any other cult, as far as I'm concerned.
See no wisdom there.

I find myself relatively a dummy with psychological needs too. See any wisdom there?

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Postby Derek » Tue May 27, 2014 2:46 pm

Is that the one by Paul Breiter? I read it years ago, must be back in the 90s. As I remember it, the author was somewhat ambivalent about his experience.

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Re: Venerable Father--a Life with Ajahn Chah Have you read t

Postby alan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:28 am

Anyone who has read the book recently and can show some examples of wisdom described therein, please do so.


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