Martial Law in Thailand

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mkoll » Mon May 26, 2014 5:06 am

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby mikenz66 » Mon May 26, 2014 6:04 am

Yes, I guess that was expected.

I was in Thailand with my partner in April and she flew back on Saturday, as planned. No problems travelling to the airport, and in fact the coup meant she had some spare seats to sleep on on the plane... :)

I've found twitter very useful for real-time updates and links to news pages: https://twitter.com/richardbarrow

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mr Man » Mon May 26, 2014 8:56 am

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Dan Rooney » Thu May 29, 2014 6:56 am

I've found twitter very useful for real-time updates and links to news pages: https://twitter.com/richardbarrow


The most reliable source for news (in English) is probably http://www.prachatai.com/english/ The junta is blocking the main site at the moment but if you're out of the country this won't be a problem, at least until the whole site is closed permanently.
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Dan Rooney » Thu May 29, 2014 7:35 am

That's the hitch...the patriarchal system of Asian culture, so firmly entrenched, is such that no one, (literally), even thinks of saying boo to anyone at, (or even affiliated with), the top


This kind of essentialist thinking has been out of favour for a very, very, very long time. Thailand is a complex society undergoing massive social change and this is something which can't sensibly be reduced to cartoon-like figures of the Oriental. Besides, what is this whole conflict about if not the very fact that the majority of the people of Thailand are no longer prepared to sit and smile and tug their forelocks and the elites are doing everything in their power to make sure the clock is wound back to a time when that was all they did? As for whether everyone in Thailand is happy with what is happening, I can assure you that they are not and that there is very vocal, very rude opposition online - the extent to which it is kept there is a direct function of the extent to which the junta maintains the threat of violence.

sometimes it's tough for those of the Occident to fathom the absolute, unequivocal, say-so of the big cheeses in the East


Your address is not especially relevant to this and, in any case, living in 'the Orient' (and that's not a phrase one hears often outside the texts of colonialism) is not something to which you have an exclusive claim.
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mkoll » Thu May 29, 2014 8:02 am

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mr Man » Thu May 29, 2014 11:15 am

Thailand’s Army Tears Up the Script: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/opini ... share&_r=0
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Denisa » Thu May 29, 2014 12:07 pm

Dan74 wrote:///.../// An unbelievably rude comment, especially towards a Sangha member.


daverupa wrote:There's no need for bans or any other adminstration at this point, but let us all remember two things:

1. Right Speech
2. Talk of kings, robbers, and ministers of state is low talk, animal talk; instead, let us each convey, with mindfulness, a patient and even-handed conversation about these important issues.

:heart:

It looks ugly when a Sangha member drag himself to argue with a layperson about politics. Therefore, I'm not surprised at him receiving rude comments.

In the end, animal talk is more ugly when done by a Sangha member than a lay person who might only holds five precepts.

BTW, thanks Dan Rooney for sharing about the situation. I also have a friend there.
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Denisa » Fri May 30, 2014 2:58 pm

We might see the next Rambo movie plot being Thailand, previous was Burma...

Oh well...
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mkoll » Sat May 31, 2014 6:09 am

Protesters to test Thai junta, no vote for over a year

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/ ... me=topNews

~~~

Big announcement.
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mr Man » Sat May 31, 2014 9:22 pm

Australia downgrades ties with Thailand after military coup http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... itary-coup
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby alan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:18 am

Thais are unduly respectful of established order. Not a surprise to me that the military swept in--It will happen again, whenever there is an upset in the hierarchy.
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby manas » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:32 am

I was wondering if anyone knows, if foreign agents are in Thailand, inducing the political instability that seems to go on and on. Someone must stand to gain from the instability, but as it is not the Thai people, who is it?
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby robertk » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:10 am

manas wrote:I was wondering if anyone knows, if foreign agents are in Thailand, inducing the political instability that seems to go on and on. Someone must stand to gain from the instability, but as it is not the Thai people, who is it?

yes indeed. hereis a lucid article that explains the whole story
http://notthenation.com/2012/03/the-key ... hird-hand/
and this one:
http://notthenation.com/2012/12/allow-m ... i-history/
Allow Me To Explain Our Version Of Thai History

By Prapas Yanonthankul, Pitak Siam member

4 Dec 2012
You seem a little confused by all of this, so let me try and help you understand what’s really going on. As a Thai person, I have a unique insight into the situation that you simply do not. You can’t appreciate our country’s current events just by reading those academic, peer-reviewed books of yours, because they rely far too much on facts and corroboration, and miss out on the nuances that define our culture and kingdom. Also, it has been well documented that the foreign press has been unduly influenced by dark forces, and I have it on good authority that most of the books and articles that attack our position were paid for by Thaksin Shinawatra. Please set aside all those lies by the Economist and the Yale University Press. Those organizations have no credibility compared to the absolutely true rumors I heard from my friend on Facebook who heard it from someone who works in a insider position of such high authority I can’t even tell you what it is
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby robertk » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:12 am

robertk wrote:
manas wrote:I was wondering if anyone knows, if foreign agents are in Thailand, inducing the political instability that seems to go on and on. Someone must stand to gain from the instability, but as it is not the Thai people, who is it?

yes indeed. hereis a lucid article that explains the whole story
http://notthenation.com/2012/03/the-key ... hird-hand/

Some academics think it is a local thing though:

http://notthenation.com/2014/05/social- ... -thailand/
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby robertk » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:22 am

fortunately the new junta (the Council for Maintaining Peace and Order) is keeping out some of the foreign undesirables who do the stirring up mentioned by manas.
http://notthenation.com/2014/05/new-vis ... oglodytes/
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:17 am

robertk wrote:http://notthenation.com/2012/12/allow-m ... i-history/
Allow Me To Explain Our Version Of Thai History

Even better that The Onion... :tongue:
... the ignorant buffaloes of Isaan wouldn’t even have a vote to sell.


Thanks Robert...

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby Mkoll » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:25 am

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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby robertk » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:42 am

http://asiancorrespondent.com/author/bangkokpundit/
This is a translation of an article in one of the Thai newspapers describing how it ( all Thailands problems) is indeed a plot by evil western powers against Thailand . Looks like manas was correct!

I should add, in case anyone thinks it is some hilarious parody that it is a fully serious piece. The writer was a legal advisor to the 2006 coup leaders ( including also the one in control of this coup)and a former Appointed Senator,
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Re: Martial Law in Thailand

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:31 am

Fascinating... I'm speechless...

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