Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Sat May 31, 2014 3:46 pm

I've never even met one who wanted to.

I've heard plenty of ladies make such comments about famous heart-throbs, though..... :tongue:
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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby Shaswata_Panja » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:50 pm

sexuality is an illness..if you cannot renounce sexuality you will never progress in either yoga or Buddhism

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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby Mkoll » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:23 pm

Shaswata_Panja wrote:sexuality is an illness..if you cannot renounce sexuality you will never progress in either yoga or Buddhism

The suttas and modern lay practitioners are evidence to the contrary.
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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby daverupa » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:28 pm

Nevermind evidence to the contrary; sexuality-as-disease is simply inaccurate, and itself without evidence at the start. Arguing against such ridiculous & biased presumptions is fruitless; calling out such unilateral & non-nuanced declarations as ignorant and myopic requires nothing not already on display.
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby Shaswata_Panja » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:21 pm

Buddha was totally against sex..as long as one harbours sympathetic feelings towards sex, higher realizations will be blocked off for him..there is a reason Buddha banned sex for monks and nuns..He made the correct decision..Sexing worldlings will always be addicted to sex just as a diseased person is addicted to scratching his festering wounds

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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby culaavuso » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:29 pm

Shaswata_Panja wrote:Buddha was totally against sex..as long as one harbours sympathetic feelings towards sex, higher realizations will be blocked off for him..there is a reason Buddha banned sex for monks and nuns..He made the correct decision..Sexing worldlings will always be addicted to sex just as a diseased person is addicted to scratching his festering wounds


MN 73: Mahāvacchagotta Sutta wrote:“Apart from Master Gotama, the bhikkhus and bhikkhunīs, and the men lay followers clothed in white leading lives of celibacy, is there any one man lay follower, Master Gotama’s disciple, clothed in white enjoying sensual pleasures, who carries out his instruction, responds to his advice, has gone beyond doubt, become free from perplexity, gained intrepidity, and become independent of others in the Teacher’s Dispensation?” [3]

”There are not only one hundred ... or five hundred, but far more men lay followers, my disciples, clothed in white enjoying sensual pleasures, who carry out my instruction, respond to my advice, have gone beyond doubt, become free from perplexity, gained intrepidity, and become independent of others in the Teacher’s Dispensation.”

Note 3:
This question refers to the stream-enterer and the once returner, who may still indulge in sensual pleasures if they remain in the lay life.


AN 8.54: Byagghapajja Sutta wrote:"We are lay people enjoying sensuality; living crowded with spouses & children; using Kasi fabrics & sandalwood; wearing garlands, scents, & creams; handling gold & silver. May the Blessed One teach the Dhamma for those like us, for our happiness & well-being in this life, for our happiness & well-being in lives to come."

[The Blessed One said:] "There are these four qualities, TigerPaw, that lead to a lay person's happiness and well-being in this life. Which four? Being consummate in initiative, being consummate in vigilance, admirable friendship, and maintaining one's livelihood in tune.
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There are these four qualities that lead to a lay person's happiness and well-being in lives to come. Which four? Being consummate in conviction, being consummate in virtue, being consummate in generosity, being consummate in discernment.

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Re: Hindu guru claims homosexuality can be 'cured' by yoga

Postby Shaswata_Panja » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:44 pm

thanks a lot culavaaso ji..


so it seems first two stages of Enlightenment possible even while sexing


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