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Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby cooran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:47 am

Hello all,


Think about this a bit after the first surprise:

Should women shave their legs and underarms?
http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014 ... MP=ema_632


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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Mkoll » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:53 am

cooran wrote:Should women shave their legs and underarms?

It's up to each individual woman to decide.

What do you think, Chris?
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby cooran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:59 am

Being a woman in Western society, I never thought about it - it is something every woman I know just does. I'll keep with the habit. :tongue:
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby SarathW » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:21 am

Fashions is just like hair.
Come and go!
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby chownah » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:11 am

Women don't have hair on their legs or underarms.....why would they shave them?
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby cooran » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:24 am

chownah wrote:Women don't have hair on their legs or underarms.....why would they shave them?
chownah

:smile: :smile: :smile:

I do remember seeing some Swedish girls back-packing in rural India wearing shorts and sleeveless tops. The westerners on the trip were surprised at their hairy underarms, the Indian locals were shocked at the bare legs and tight shorts.
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Sam Vara » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:53 am

The Guardian is obsessed with this issue and returns to it frequently. Declining revenues and few real reporters means that it has to pay bloggers and "commmentators" to re-hash and opine about news, and work up social issues out of personal preferences. The more contributions to each thread, and the more clicks, the more it can attract potential advertisers to its site.

This topic is a good choice, as it plays on the old feminist trope of "The personal is political", and requires nothing more than an opinion and the old Julia Roberts picture.

A sad decline of a once-great newspaper.
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:06 am

cooran wrote:Being a woman in Western society, I never thought about it - it is something every woman I know just does. I'll keep with the habit. :tongue:


Why?
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:30 am

Hair is repulsive.
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Spiny Norman » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:37 am

cooran wrote:Should women shave their legs and underarms?
http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014 ... MP=ema_632


Isn't it just a cultural / fashion thing? I don't see what's wrong with hair, and some men have beards. ;)
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Mkoll » Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:54 am

Ben wrote:Hair is repulsive.

Sure, from a Buddhist perspective, the entire body is repulsive.
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:05 am

Mkoll wrote:
Ben wrote:Hair is repulsive.

Sure, from a Buddhist perspective, the entire body is repulsive.

Yes, that is true.
Learn this from the waters:
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:12 am

Mkoll wrote:
Ben wrote:Hair is repulsive.

Sure, from a Buddhist perspective, the entire body is repulsive.
I am sure you would think that is so as you held your new born child for the first time and many, many times thereafter.
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Mkoll » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:16 am

tiltbillings wrote:
Mkoll wrote:
Ben wrote:Hair is repulsive.

Sure, from a Buddhist perspective, the entire body is repulsive.
I am sure you would think that is so as you held your new born child for the first time and many, many times thereafter.

'Fraid that's not on my itinerary this go-round. ;)
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Ben » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:53 am

Mkoll wrote:'Fraid that's not on my itinerary this go-round. ;)

You never know your kamma in samsara (You never know your luck in a big city).
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

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sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby wornoutskin » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:14 pm

I don't really know about should and should-nots, but I know that I don't.
If you do it, it's probably because...
  • You've grown up with it, and haven't thought about stopping, or why you do it in the first place
  • You fear ridicule from others for going against the norm (Western norm anyhow)
  • You like the feeling or appearance of shaved underarms and legs
There are probably many other reasons, but that's just a few I could think of. To each her own! :)
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby TheNoBSBuddhist » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:45 pm

Sam Vara wrote:The Guardian is obsessed with this issue and returns to it frequently. Declining revenues and few real reporters means that it has to pay bloggers and "commmentators" to re-hash and opine about news, and work up social issues out of personal preferences. The more contributions to each thread, and the more clicks, the more it can attract potential advertisers to its site.

This topic is a good choice, as it plays on the old feminist trope of "The personal is political", and requires nothing more than an opinion and the old Julia Roberts picture.

A sad decline of a once-great newspaper.

And let us not even think about The daily Mail!!

I take it, cooran, you are preferring to remain silent on my question?
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby culaavuso » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:36 pm

Mkoll wrote:
Ben wrote:Hair is repulsive.

Sure, from a Buddhist perspective, the entire body is repulsive.


SN 46.54: Metta Sutta wrote:In this case, monks, a monk cultivates the enlightenment-factor of mindfulness accompanied by loving-kindness and similarly the enlightenment-factors of investigation-of-states, energy, rapture, tranquillity, concentration, equanimity, accompanied by loving-kindness which is based on detachment, dispassion, leading to maturity of surrender. If he wishes to dwell perceiving the repulsive in what is not repulsive, he dwells thus perceiving the repulsive. If he wishes to dwell perceiving the unrepulsive in what is repulsive, he dwells thus perceiving the unrepulsive. If he wishes to dwell perceiving the repulsive both in what is repulsive and what is not repulsive, if he wishes to dwell perceiving the unrepulsive in both..., he dwells thus. If he wishes, avoiding both the repulsive and unrepulsive, to dwell equanimous, mindful and clearly aware, he dwells thus, equanimous, mindful and clearly aware, or, attaining the heart's release called 'beautiful' he abides there. I declare that the heart's release by loving-kindness has the beautiful for its excellence. This is the attainment of a wise monk who penetrates to no higher release.
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby lyndon taylor » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:28 pm

When I became a monk I was told to shave EVERYTHING, including eyebrows.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community that has so generously given me so much, sincerely former monk John
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Re: Should women shave their legs and underarms?

Postby Mkoll » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:45 pm

Ben wrote:
Mkoll wrote:'Fraid that's not on my itinerary this go-round. ;)

You never know your kamma in samsara (You never know your luck in a big city).

That's true. Unforeseen routes may be taken.
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