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Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby Ben » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:15 pm

Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Catherine Deveny

HERE'S my theory. God has narcissistic personality disorder.
Stay with me as I indulge in two of my favourite pastimes: illuminating monotheistic religion's exploitation of the human desire to feel safe, loved and special; and my constant need to question and expose maladaptive behaviour. Let's pathologise!

Here's the deal: tick five in the diagnostic criteria and we have an NPD winner!

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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby genkaku » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:42 pm

Facile, but fun.

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby pink_trike » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:15 am

My 11-year-old atheist gave me the revelation that God had NPD when he said, "I think we invented God and then God invented us."

Smart kid - he knows the nature of mind at age 11. We invent stories and then the stories invent us. This can be applied to everything we believe.
Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby Ben » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:39 am

Dear Adam,
genkaku wrote:Facile, but fun.

What else would you expect from the rude bastard of Tasmania??
Cheers

Ben
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.

Taṃ nadīhi vijānātha:
sobbhesu padaresu ca,
saṇantā yanti kusobbhā,
tuṇhīyanti mahodadhī.

Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby Fede » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:04 am

I've always said that if people stop thinking about him, god would cease to 'exist'.
Now that's ego for you.....
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby christopher::: » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:19 am

Fede wrote:I've always said that if people stop thinking about him, god would cease to 'exist'.
Now that's ego for you.....


:namaste:

In seeking the essence of the Way,
one should quiet the mind
and penetrate to the depths.
Silently wander within
and clearly see the origin
of all things, obscured by nothing.
The mind is boundless and formless,
just as the pure water
contains the essence of autumn.
It is glistening white and lustrously bright
in the same way that
moonlight envelops the entire night.

- Hung-chih
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:24 am

christopher::: wrote:

Silently wander within
and clearly see the origin
of all things, obscured by nothing.


The Dalai Lama states:

"This principle [of Buddhism] means that all conditioned things and
events in the universe come into being only as a result of the interaction
of various causes and conditions. This is significant because it precludes
two possibilities. One is the possibility that things can arise from
nowhere, with no causes and conditions, and the second is that things
can arise on account of a transcendent designer or creator. Both these
possibilities are negated."
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby christopher::: » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:29 am

Right.

:anjali:
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby Jechbi » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:30 am

It's poetry, Tilt.
Rain soddens what is kept wrapped up,
But never soddens what is open;
Uncover, then, what is concealed,
Lest it be soddened by the rain.

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby tiltbillings » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:34 am

Of course it is poetry, but that does not mean it is not saying something profound.

Clearly see the origin
of all things, obscured by nothing.

And in prose, it is what is expressed by the Dalai Lama.
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby christopher::: » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:40 am

Yes!

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Like the empty sky it has no boundaries,
Yet it is right in this place, ever profound and clear.
When you seek to know it, you cannot see it.
You cannot take hold of it,
But you cannot lose it.
In not being able to get it, you get it.
When you are silent, it speaks;
When you speak, it is silent.
The great gate is wide open to bestow alms,
And no crowd is blocking the way.


~Cheng-tao Ke
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Our Father, to thine own pathological self be true

Postby Jechbi » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:46 am

tiltbillings wrote:Of course it is poetry, but that does not mean it is not saying something profound.

You're right about that.
Rain soddens what is kept wrapped up,
But never soddens what is open;
Uncover, then, what is concealed,
Lest it be soddened by the rain.


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