Do you celebrate Christmas?

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Do you celebrate Christmas?

Yes
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66%
No
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29%
On Occasion
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5%
 
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Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby clw_uk » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:16 pm

Just interested to see how many do. I myself do but only because the rest of my family does
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby retrofuturist » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:19 pm

Greetings Craig,

Same here... first with my parents and then with 'my own family', it's an atheist celebration of the presents and Santa variety.

Peace and good-will to all men is a good message though... and doesn't need Christian backing for support.

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby davcuts » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:23 pm

I only celebrate as the same reason as you. It's time to spend with family. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't celebrate it at all.

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby pink_trike » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:29 pm

I've acknowledged Winter Solstice for many decades, usually with a gathering of friends - this is what was celebrated long before christianity expropriated it.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Aloka » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:53 pm

Since my mother died I don't celebrate Christmas I'm happy to say. I politely refuse invitations, light some candles and incense and have my special Christmas dinner of egg, chips and mayonnaise, and a nice cup of tea, in delightful peace and quiet without trees and decorations, the awful smell of cooking meat and the sound of bizarre TV programmes ! Heaven.

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Zack » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:33 am

We do in my home and family, I enjoy it.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby A Medic » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:53 am

I love Christmas. Music, foods, presents,Christmas tv, and much more. I just think it is lots of fun!

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Dugu » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:15 am

I chose on occasion. If there are people to celebrate it with then I do it with them. But since I am by myself, I don't celebrate it much.

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Ben » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:30 am

Yes I celebrate it for the same reasons as Retro gave.
Its also fun.

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby zavk » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:28 am

An opportunity to have fun with the ones I love, respect and cherish? Yeah, of course! Not too fussed about the exchanging of gifts though; we just get together and enjoy each other's company.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Mawkish1983 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:12 am

I've always struggled to get into the spirit of Christmas, but I've always tried. The whole 'family thing' seems like a really good idea. As a family we've always celebrated Christmas as a secular event.

The thought just occured to me, what would I (or you) do if Christmas Day was an Uposatha Day? Sounds perfect to me, a day focused on metta without the frills that I can neither abide nor afford :)

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:43 am

Ajahn Chah was a great advocate of the ( appropriate ) celebration of Christmas.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:48 am

Sanghamitta wrote:Ajahn Chah was a great advocate of the ( appropriate ) celebration of Christmas.

I have a photo of him with a bunch of Western monks with a Xmas Buddha-bush. I'll scan it and upload here.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Sanghamitta » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:13 am

I gather that the first year he suggested that the monastary had a Christmas tree it caused quite a stir.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Annapurna » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:43 am

I love X mas. However, this year I have (paying) guests over X mas, I hesitated to have my sleep peace and rest disturbed, but I need the money.

So, I' have mixed emotions.

But X mas is fine with me.
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Dugu » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:15 pm

Annabel wrote:I love X mas. However, this year I have (paying) guests over X mas, I hesitated to have my sleep peace and rest disturbed, but I need the money.


so what are they paying for?

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby Annapurna » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:10 pm

I have vacationapartments...
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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:01 pm

I never celebrated Christmas growing up. I was raised Jewish, so we did Chanukah (8 nights in December).

After getting married and having two children, we celebrate the commercial and fun side of it, with the lights and presents, and just a few times with an artificial tree.

I notice that some of the rituals (pagan origin?) of Christmas seem to have more in common with Buddhism than Christianity. For example:

Christmas tree: Bodhi Tree
Lights, decorations: Enlightenment
Colored lights: The five colors emitting from the Buddha at enlightenment; red, yellow, blue, white, orange
Presents: Sanghamitta brought the gift of the Dhamma and a Bodhi Tree sapling to Sri Lanka. Her poya day is in December.

Perhaps all the more reason, we Buddhists should celebrate. :tongue:

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:02 pm

As promised, the infamous Xmas Buddha-bush at Wat PaPong in 1974. Ajahn Sumedho is standing behind and just the right of Ajahn Chah. Paul Brieiter (co-author of A STILL FOREST POOL) is the burly guy, front row with glasses. There are a couple of other Western (now) ajahns in this photo, and the star of the photo is the scraggly Xmas Buddha-bush far right fron row held by the lay-guy.
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Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

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"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson

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Re: Do you celebrate Christmas?

Postby tiltbillings » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:16 pm

Not that it has a thing to do with xmas, but here, for your amusement, is a photo of me (glasses) and the eventrually to become Ajahn Munindo right after our novice ordination in 1974.
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This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

dheamhan a fhios agam

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson


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