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THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Ben » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:10 pm

Run for the hills!


NASA debunks 2012 apocalypse myths

WASHINGTON DC: The world is not coming to an end on December 21, 2012, NASA insists in a rare campaign to dispel widespread rumours fuelled by the Internet and a new blockbuster movie.

The latest big screen offering from Sony Pictures, 2012, opens in Australia today. It is a US$200-million production about the end of the world supposedly based on myths backed by the Mayan calendar.

The doomsday scenario revolves around claims that the end of time will come as an obscure Planet X – or Nibiru – heads toward or collides with Earth.

Doomsday scenario

The mysterious planet was supposedly discovered by the Sumerians, according to claims by pseudo-scientists, paranormal activity enthusiasts and Internet theorists. Some websites accuse NASA of concealing the truth on the wayward planet's existence, but the U.S. space agency denounced such stories as an "Internet hoax."

"There is no factual basis for these claims," NASA said in a question-and-answer posting on its website. If such a collision were real "astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye," it added. "Obviously, it does not exist."

"Credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012," it insisted. After all, "our planet has been getting along just fine for more than four billion years."

The rest of the article is here: http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3121 ... ypse-myths


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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Dugu » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:19 pm

I am rather surprised NASA has responded to this 2012 myth, that's just giving it more significance. I do think 2012 will be a hard time for some economically. Having said that, I am looking forward to the movie.
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Postby Ben » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:39 pm

Dugu wrote:I am rather surprised NASA has responded to this 2012 myth, that's just giving it more significance.

Do you think so? I thought it was quite reasonable and rational.
I do think 2012 will be a hard time for some economically.

Undoubtedly. We're not out of the woods yet. If you've got the time and the interest, I recommend a documentary (Australian/Irish co-production) which aired on ABC1 over the last two weeks called 'The Addiction to Money' which charted the causes and effects of the Global Economic Crisis. Very well done even if it was aimed at an oblivious lay audience.

I am looking forward to the movie.

I've heard that its a bit of a dog! The special effects were, according to the reviewer, spectacular but the scenes were just too implausable. But if you go, enjoy the experience. I may end up going myself if my oldest son is desparate to see it.
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Postby tiltbillings » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:49 pm

Dugu wrote:I am rather surprised NASA has responded to this 2012 myth, that's just giving it more significance. I do think 2012 will be a hard time for some economically. Having said that, I am looking forward to the movie.

My guess is that NASA is responding to the astronomical (in terms of astronomy) claims of the movie. As for the movie, I am sure it be eye-popping eye-candy, but eye-candy that raises the bar, I'll go with James Cameron's AVATAR. That looks like it will be more than good.
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Postby zavk » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:12 pm

tiltbillings wrote:As for the movie, I am sure it be eye-popping eye-candy, but eye-candy that raises the bar, I'll go with James Cameron's AVATAR. That looks like it will be more than good.


A reviewer in the local paper described it as 'a great, big, fat, greasy cheeseburger of a movie....'

Greasy ....mmmmmmmmmmm...... cheeseburger .... mmmmmmmmm......

I too am more interested in Cameron's 'cheeseburger'.
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby mikenz66 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:45 pm

Dugu wrote:I am rather surprised NASA has responded to this 2012 myth, that's just giving it more significance. I do think 2012 will be a hard time for some economically. Having said that, I am looking forward to the movie.

Part of NASA's brief is public outreach (same with any modern science funding agency...) They have an extensive and sophisticated public relations machine. A couple of years ago I attending an interesting seminar by the publicity officer of the Space Telescope. It's not an accident that you see those images all over the place (such as album covers). The colour renderings on those images have considerable artistic input (not to say they are "fake", but there is a lot of choice in how you render things, particularly if you combine visible, IR, and UV images...).

The number of people who think that NASA faked the moon landings is mind boggling. Good PR is crucial!

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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby pink_trike » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:15 am

Hollywood pillages ancient records and mixes them with fiction at its whim, whipping the blind masses into a fearful frenzy, all for profit.

The Mayan records (so-called "myths") contain absolutely no mention of Planet X or Nibiru or any other rouge planet in relationship to the event they describe as taking place in this general present time. The Mayan records only point at "the end of time" - they don't say anything about the popular concept known as "the end of the world". They just indicate that several major cycles of time are coming to an end simultaneously. The exact date of this event is widely debated among scholars of Mayan records.

Whatever the date, it marks the beginning of an in-between zone...a "bardo" time period before the next cycle or series of cycles begin. Premodern records from around the world describe these periods between certain cycles of time as dark and chaotic...frequently accompanied by widespread violence, mental illness, war, species die off, famine, pestilence, mutations, epidemics, and simultaneous catastrophic climate extremes, earthquakes, volcanic activity, floods, wind, and fire of exoplanetary origin - that take place as a result of the astrogeological forces associated with the ending of cycles. The geological/climate/archeological record reveals that at least one cycle recorded by most advanced premodern cultures is clearly and repeatedly evidenced.

More than a few premodern records also state that exact dates for the catastrophic geological and climate changes that take place during these in-between zones can't be pinpointed - eloquently stated in Christian records as "like a thief in the night". So no use getting our undies all in a twist...we might as well just practice.
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Postby poto » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:17 am

It's a sad reflection of our modern society that the idiocy surrounding these doomsday predictions is so rampant that NASA has felt the need to comment on this at all.
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Postby mikenz66 » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:44 am

poto wrote:It's a sad reflection of our modern society that the idiocy surrounding these doomsday predictions is so rampant that NASA has felt the need to comment on this at all.

I agree that it is a little sad that these predictions (and various conspiracy theories) are taken seriously, but, as I said above, NASA probably views it as a PR opportunity. The general public is fascinated by space, cosmology, etc. If we want to fill a hall, we just need to throw in something astronomical. We've just had Robert Kirshner touring the country giving public talks about his clever astronomical measurements that would be rather obscure if not that they suggest that the rate of expansion of the universe is increasing (hence the current "dark energy" theories to explain the data).

Going a little off topic here: At lunch Kirshner was talking about the history of Harvard, how the completely unlikely rumour that they offered a professorship to Galileo was technically feasible (Galilao died two years after Harvard was founded), and among the famous scientists who built Harvard's reputation he mentiond Agassiz. "Oh, the guy with the fish?", I said, pleased that listening to talks by Joseph Goldstein (who frequently uses Scudder's tale of being tested by Agassiz http://www.bethel.edu/~dhoward/resources/Agassizfish/Agassizfish.htm) had given me the ability to sound credible...

Anyway,the point is that getting science done is about funding. Always has been. Which requires good PR...

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Postby A Medic » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:45 am

poto wrote:It's a sad reflection of our modern society that the idiocy surrounding these doomsday predictions is so rampant that NASA has felt the need to comment on this at all.



True.


I never had any worry. I survived the last time the world ended in 2000 (Y2K).
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:17 am

The end of the world is nowhere in sight for one who does not meditate.
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Ben » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:34 am

Thank you Bhante for that beautiful seque back to the Dhamma and a prescient reminder to do that which is needful!
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Clueless Git » Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:36 am

Ben wrote: "There is no factual basis for these claims," NASA said in a question-and-answer posting on its website. If such a collision were real "astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye," it added. "Obviously, it does not exist."

"Credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012," it insisted. After all, "our planet has been getting along just fine for more than four billion years."

Yeah right!

Errrr ... well they would say that, wouldn't they? :spy:
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Ben » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:17 am

Hi CG
Clueless Git wrote:Errrr ... well they would say that, wouldn't they? :spy:


Well...yes! And they should. Bullshit should always be refuted.
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby Clueless Git » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:41 am

Ben wrote:Hi CG
Clueless Git wrote:Errrr ... well they would say that, wouldn't they? :spy:


Well...yes! And they should. Bullshit should always be refuted.
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This is the how the lizard people (who live amongst us in human guise and form the illuminatti) want us to think Ben.

S'all part of their plot to enslave the human race and open a chain of cosmic fast food restaurants that specialises in deep fried human brains.

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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby catmoon » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:56 am

The end of the world is nowhere in sight... therefore it seems no one can see it comin and it could be here any minute. Maybe it even already occurred like last week sometime. Maybe we are all trapped in the hell of endless discussion and just haven't realized it yet.
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Re: THE END OF THE WORLD IS NOWHERE IN SIGHT!

Postby pink_trike » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:13 am

Clueless Git wrote:This is the how the lizard people (who live amongst us in human guise and form the illuminatti) want us to think Ben.
S'all part of their plot to enslave the human race and open a chain of cosmic fast food restaurants that specialises in deep fried human brains.:

:smile: There is NO, I repeat, No cause for alarm. :smile: Agent CT has recently been under stress and was just releasing tension with an awkward attempt at humor. :smile: The people who descended from the great nation of Lizardia are integral to the fabric of this great country and the world. Their contributions to society are uncountable. :smile: The myth that people of Lizardian descent have a great liking for succulent, delicious, deep fried human brains is completely baseless, and the conspiracy theorists who suggests we are actually lizard-like creatures from another planet that have the ability to appear in human form, well...just that's plain nutty! :smile: Now go shopping. Go shopping... Go shopppiiinnnggg.... :smile:






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Agent CT - you're being recalled for mandatory reconditioning. The sharing of sensitive inter-galactic proprietary business strategies involving the harvesting of valuable terrestrial bio-resources is a high crime - as you well know from your training. Stand by for tele-vaporization back to the ship for transport to Urg Glok.

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