Jeez, turn your back for ten minutes and the place is unrecognisable
Manapa wrote: Kim O'Hara wrote:
After reading all the other responses, I thought I'd better say that we do still think you
are OK. Sharing something of unknown value, as you obviously did, is no indication of moral turpitude.
I wonder why anyone would think someone was morally corrupt for sharing an article on doubting scientific consensus?
Sorry, Manapa. 'Moral turpitude' was a bit of a joke, trying to lighten the reception your OP got.I could just as esily have said, "we don't shoot messengers round here."
I need to keep on reminding myself that humour online can be misinterpreted very easily, and either avoid it or make it really obvious.
Manapa wrote:but whether the article has good or bad points regarding climate change is not the reason I shared it, the title of the article, this thread and well the main issue it looks at (climate change being an example used btw) should indicate something that is being pointed to, no?
No. As I (quite seriously) said in my first response, "it is not about what it says it is about: it is single-minded attack on one branch of science." I could have added, "masqueradiing as something else entirely."
As such, it is a really bad starting point for a discussion about scientific consensus.
While I'm writing, here's a link to the report that Ben mentioned: download the pdf direct from http://www.csiro.au/files/files/pvfo.pdf
or via its home page at http://www.csiro.au/resources/State-of-the-Climate.htmlPeterB
, please read it. It's clear and authoritative and only a couple of pages long, and the issue is too important to put in the 'too hard' basket.Alan
, you said:
Consider the source: an ultra-right wing propaganda machine. The "American Enterprise Institute" is so out there they just fired the guy who wrote Bush's Axis of Evil speech for not being conservative enough!
That one is new to me. I don't disbelieve it for a moment, but can your give me a source for it that I can share with others?
Edit: just added the direct link for the pdf.