Them old BP Blues

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:07 pm

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Boooi21 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:44 am

I will read time to time that
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:05 am

Well I'm happy to hear that Boooi. It's nice to know someone is paying attention.

It's hit Florida.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Kim OHara » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:37 am

Wondering why you haven't been seeing so much of this subject in the news lately?
This http://www.prwatch.org/node/9101 is one part of the answer.
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:59 am

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:51 am

According to a news bulletin I caught this evening, BP reckon they are catching 12 000 barrels a day from the well.
What wasn't mentioned on the news - perhaps because it wasn't mentioned by BP? - is that (1) a lot is still leaking and (2) what their figure says about the lower limit of what has already leaked.

Meanwhile, this blog http://blog.brighterplanet.com/2010/06/07/the-big-spill-you-dont-see/ puts the disaster to good rhetorical use.

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Annapurna » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:21 am

Yesterday it was on TV for the first time that they think it will get transported to Europe via gulf-stream ....

We have a word for the maximum credible accident in nuclear plants:

Super-GAU. This sure is it with oil.

....all the animals...I feel so sorry for them... :weep:

Arrgghhhh.....

Couldn't possibly happen if we used solar energy and wind.

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Annapurna » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:25 am

I keep wondering when we will have a real nuclear catastrophe. I mean global.

I think it is only a matter of time.

Murphy's law.
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Annapurna » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:27 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:Wondering why you haven't been seeing so much of this subject in the news lately?
This http://www.prwatch.org/node/9101 is one part of the answer.
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You mean about the oil?

You haven't seen a lot of it?

It's still BIG here in the news...

Or am I misunderstanding you?
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Kim OHara » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:29 pm

Annapurna wrote:
Kim O'Hara wrote:Wondering why you haven't been seeing so much of this subject in the news lately?
This http://www.prwatch.org/node/9101 is one part of the answer.
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You mean about the oil?

You haven't seen a lot of it?

It's still BIG here in the news...

Or am I misunderstanding you?

Hi, Anna,
No, you're not misunderstanding me.
Here, at least, we are still getting some news, but the coverage is dwindling even though the real story is actually getting bigger.
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:53 am

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Kim OHara » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:14 am

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Thales » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:04 pm

"Just as the ocean has a single taste, the taste of salt, so this Dhamma and Discipline has a single taste, the taste of release."

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:46 pm

When the Valdez oil spill occurred, Robert Bly penned this prose poem, I thought I would dig it out and post it:
The Dead Seal Near McClure's Bay

1

Walking north along the point, I find a dead seal. From a few
feet away, he looks like a brown log. The body is on its back, dead only a
few hours. I stand and look at him. There's a quiver in the dead flesh:
My God, he's still alive. And a shock goes through me, as if a wall of my
room had fallen away.

His head is arched back, the small eyes closed; the whiskers sometimes
rise and fall. He is dying. This is oil. Here on its back is the oil
that heats our houses so efficiently. Wind blows fine sand back toward
the ocean. The flipper near me lies folded over the stomach, looking like
an unfinished arm, lightly glazed with sand at its edges. The other flipper
lies half underneath. And the seal's skin looks like an old overcoat,
scratched here and there -- by sharp mussel shells maybe.

I reach out and touch him. Suddenly, he rears up, turns over. He
gives three cries: Awaark! Awaark! Awaark! -- like the cries from
Christmas toys. He lunges toward me, I am terrified and leap back,
though I know there can be no teeth in that jaw. He starts flopping
toward the sea. But he falls over, on his face. He does not want to go back
to the sea. He looks up at the sky, and he looks like an old lady who has
lost her hair. He puts his chin back down on the sand, rearranges his flippers,
and waits for me to go. I go.

2

The next day I go back to say goodbye. He's dead now. But he's not.
He's a quarter mile farther up the shore. Today he is thinner, squatting
on his stomach, head out. The ribs show more: each vertebra on the back
under the coat is visible, shiny. He breathes in and out.

A wave comes in, touches his nose. He turns and looks at me -- the
eyes slanted; the crown of his head looks like a boy's leather jacket bending
over some bicycycle bars. He is taking a long time to die. The whiskers
white as porcupine quills, the forehead slopes . . . . Goodbye, brother, die
in the sound of the waves. Forgive us if we have killed you. Long live your
race, your inner-tube race, so uncomfortable on the land, so comfortable in
the ocean. Be comfortable in death, then, when the sand will be out of
your nostrils, and you can swim in long loops through the pure death,
ducking under as assassinations break above you. You don't want to be
touched by me.

I climb the cliff and go home the other way.


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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Kim OHara » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:49 am

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:40 am

I'm highly prejudiced, of course, living on the Florida gulf coast. Most of us are pro-tourism and anti-drilling.
Here is an interesting article about the tensions when two economies clash. The political and cultural differences between these two "southern" states is usually not mentioned in American politics. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/us/13florida.html?hp
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Annapurna » Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:41 am

I was in Pensacola, Florida, once.

A white beach....

Amazing,.

One of the most beautiful views I've seen was after sunset, the ocean.

Sky and ocean were literally glowing in all shades of blue, lavender and purple, accentuated by white crests.

Absolutely breathtaking.

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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:38 am

Lovely photo. Thanks Anna!

Obama is going to address the U.S. tuesday night. I hope he makes it clear that he is going to respond to the oil as he would an invasion that threatens life and property to a major part of the country.

Take some of that BP money and set up an account, independently administered, to pay the people affected and help clean it up...Do it Mr. President!
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby Kim OHara » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:59 am

...[Obama] is now referring to the BP oil spill as an environmental version of September 11.
In an interview with online news site Politico, the president said the spill has had a profound effect on the American psyche "in the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11."
"I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come," he said.
Mr Obama is hinting he will use his first Oval Office address to the nation tomorrow to talk not only about the oil spill but also about the need for energy and climate legislation....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/15/2927141.htm
You might find the reader comments at the end as interesting as the article itself.
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Re: Them old BP Blues

Postby alan » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:01 am

[url][/url]Thanks Kim. Interesting to see a different take on this. So far I have seen no indications of a 9/11 reference in American media.
I'm looking forward to Obama's address. A speech from the Oval Office in primetime is the big gun in any president's arsenal. It should command an audience in the tens of millions. I'm rooting for him!

Thought you might like this
http://www.defenders.org/resources/publications/programs_and_policy/wildlife_conservation/threats/coastal_wildlife_areas_vulnerable_to_gulf_oil_spill.pdf

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