A Buddhist Time Machine

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A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby sukhamanveti » Sat May 22, 2010 4:19 am

Hi, everyone.

Imagine that you had a time machine that took you back to the Buddha's day (along with a universal translator straight out of Star Trek). Imagine further that you were able to speak with the Teacher. Let's say that he is 72 years old and the year is about 412 B.C.E. Devadatta has already tried to cause a schism. What question or three would you ask him (that you wouldn't mind posting here)?

Think of it as a way to bring to mind Buddhist mysteries or uncertainties that you might wish to investigate or issues in Buddhism that are important to you.

I think I’d ask the following:
1. "What form of meditation do you teach?” or “Would you guide me in meditation?”
2. “How would you describe the experience of recollecting your past lives?”
3. “How does the world appear to you?”

I am very interested to know what you would ask the Buddha if you could.
Sīlaṃ balaṃ appaṭimaṃ.
Sīlaṃ āvudhamuttamaṃ.
Sīlamābharaṇaṃ seṭṭhaṃ.
Sīlaṃ kavacamabbhutaṃ.


Virtue is a matchless power.
Virtue is the greatest weapon.
Virtue is the best adornment.
Virtue is a wonderful armor.

Theragatha 614


Sabbapāpassa akaraṇaṃ,
kusalassa upasampadā,
Sacittapariyodapanaṃ,
etaṃ buddhāna sāsanaṃ.


Refraining from all wrong-doing,
Undertaking the good,
Purifying the mind,
This is the teaching of the buddhas.

Dhammapada v. 183/14.5

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Pannapetar » Sat May 22, 2010 4:33 am

The first question I would ask is: "Would you like to take a ride to the 21st century in my time machine?" :jumping:

Cheers, Thomas

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Monkey Mind » Sat May 22, 2010 5:12 am

I would want to know which of the rules are "minor" rules.
"As I am, so are others;
as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

Sutta Nipāta 3.710

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby alan » Sat May 22, 2010 5:25 am

Well that is a damn good reply, Thomas. Agreed!

But let's suppose it is a Buddhist time machine that lets you go only one way. I'd ask:
I've been told you dwell in unrestricted awareness. What is that like?

Then I'd pull out the universal translator and punch in a few key words: Dukkha. Tanha.
Asava! What were you really saying?

Then I'd ask: teach me the Dhamma in brief, so I can take it back to the future.

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Wind » Sat May 22, 2010 5:27 am

1. I would ask him to take me to the deva realm like he did with one of his disciple and tell me about my past lives.
2. I would ask him to give me a personal Dhamma lessons to help me achieve jhanas and liberation from the taints.
3. I would ask him for ordination.

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby alan » Sat May 22, 2010 5:35 am

Oops, I said it was only one way, and then I asked to come back. My bad. But it's a fun game to play anyway.
Like that three wishes thing: you can't wish for another wish.

So what would you ask?

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby sukhamanveti » Sat May 22, 2010 10:25 am

Pannapetar wrote:The first question I would ask is: "Would you like to take a ride to the 21st century in my time machine?" :jumping:

Cheers, Thomas


:rofl:
Sīlaṃ balaṃ appaṭimaṃ.
Sīlaṃ āvudhamuttamaṃ.
Sīlamābharaṇaṃ seṭṭhaṃ.
Sīlaṃ kavacamabbhutaṃ.


Virtue is a matchless power.
Virtue is the greatest weapon.
Virtue is the best adornment.
Virtue is a wonderful armor.

Theragatha 614


Sabbapāpassa akaraṇaṃ,
kusalassa upasampadā,
Sacittapariyodapanaṃ,
etaṃ buddhāna sāsanaṃ.


Refraining from all wrong-doing,
Undertaking the good,
Purifying the mind,
This is the teaching of the buddhas.

Dhammapada v. 183/14.5

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Shonin » Sat May 22, 2010 7:13 pm

I'd say :
"Don't eat the pork!"

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby AryaSravaka » Sun May 23, 2010 2:11 pm

Lord samma sambuddha will look at the nature of your mind and tell very few words and u will be an arhat within seconds if u got that right.

the greatest teacher - buddha :D

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Dan74 » Sun May 23, 2010 2:49 pm

"Would you ordain me now?"

Then once I attain arahatship I would transport myself into the minute after which I left so the family wouldn't miss me too much (though they'd probably be disturbed by the fact that I aged 20 years!) :D
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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby alan » Mon May 24, 2010 5:56 am

What is more important on a daily basis: Loving-kindness or equanimity?
What is more important: Sutta study or meditation?
What is the one most important thing I can do at this moment?
Can you teach me the Dhamma in brief, so that it can be understood in our world?

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby alan » Mon May 24, 2010 6:09 am

Since you have died there have been many divergent ways of understanding your teachings. What would you say to the Tibetans? the Japanese?
Since you have died your Dhamma has come to the west. Do we understand it correctly?
Since you have died we are reading commentaries of the comments. There are so many extrapolations of your words. Should we pay attention? Or just read the Suttas?

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby alan » Tue May 25, 2010 5:23 am

What is your real nature?
Do we all have it?

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Stuart » Tue May 25, 2010 9:56 am

:anjali:
would you like to sit down?
would you like a cup of tea?
is there anything else I can do for you?

I always get good teachings from monks when I open with these ... ;) ....

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby m0rl0ck » Tue May 25, 2010 11:12 am

sukhamanveti wrote:
I am very interested to know what you would ask the Buddha if you could.


Actually the first thing i thot of was that id give him a peice of chocolate.
"When you meditate, don't send your mind outside. Don't fasten onto any knowledge at all. Whatever knowledge you've gained from books or teachers, don't bring it in to complicate things. Cut away all preoccupations, and then as you meditate let all your knowledge come from what's going on in the mind. When the mind is quiet, you'll know it for yourself. But you have to keep meditating a lot. When the time comes for things to develop, they'll develop on their own. Whatever you know, have it come from your own mind.
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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Annapurna » Tue May 25, 2010 2:03 pm

What question or three would you ask him (that you wouldn't mind posting here)?


I don't know.

He would probably know me inside out and decide what I need to hear. ;)
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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby alan » Wed May 26, 2010 3:10 am

Udana 80--I've read several translations now. Can you clarify?

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Fede » Wed May 26, 2010 8:40 am

alan...I make that 10... you're outstaying your welcome - ! :jumping:
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby PeterB » Wed May 26, 2010 8:58 am

Wind wrote:1. I would ask him to take me to the deva realm like he did with one of his disciple and tell me about my past lives.
2. I would ask him to give me a personal Dhamma lessons to help me achieve jhanas and liberation from the taints.
3. I would ask him for ordination.


How would you deal with it if his replies to your first two questions was

1. To smile and say that those were poetic metaphors.
2. To tell you to concentrate on other goals rather than the Jhanas ?

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Re: A Buddhist Time Machine

Postby Fede » Wed May 26, 2010 12:54 pm

How did you really feel about leaving your wife and son?
How do you really feel about women seeking ordination?
What really is your stance on Buddhists eating meat, even if they have not killed it, or had it killed for them?
What is your view on euthanasia for a terminally suffering being (animal or otherwise)l?

That would, for me at least, clear up some of the more mundane questions I've seen argued here and there....
And I know it's four, but alan - come on - 10!!!
"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

I am sooooo happy - How on earth could I be otherwise?! :D


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