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Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

Postby lyndon taylor » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:14 am

I'M really anti nuclear but I was thinking, two horrific accidents in 30-40 Years?? of nuclear power out of how many plants? Imagine if we had never had nuclear power and all that electricity had to be produced by conventional means like coal, would we actually be better off environmentally???? Even wind power kills native birds, I guess solar power is the least dangerous, but basically right now most of our power world wide comes from coal, is coal safer and have a better track record for the environment than nuclear??
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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

Postby lyndon taylor » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:31 pm

Obviously looking to the future we need to focus on renewable energies, but if we look at the present crisis in Japan, the closing of all the nuclear plants has been 90%+ replaced by excess coal sourced power, not solar. So it is a very complicated issue, with no easy answers, while renewables are the future they still only amount to a very small amount of power produced, shutting nuclear plants isn't really going to be a boost for renewables in the short term as much as it will increase reliance on coal.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

Postby chownah » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:22 am

Don't forget about increased efficiencies. Most power is wasted and more efficient technologies are evolving every day.....and more efficient technologies already in existence are being slowly implemented......housing, transportation, and even industrial technology is all improving in efficiency......and the common wisdom is that there are huge improvements still to come.
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Postby lyndon taylor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:09 pm

Wind and solar alone can never power the grid because they only work in sunlight or when the wind blows, they are great to supplement power that can be generated any time of day or night, but obviously a clean source of power for when the suns gone and the wind is not blowing is of the utmost importance. Fortunately we do use more power during daylight, so solar can go a long way to reduce reliance on other forms of power, but there are not, and presumably never will be batteries big enough to store gigawatts of power during the day from solar and use the power at night.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

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Skip to 3:00

Some dark prospects for Fukushima from David Suzuki
Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

Postby chownah » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:07 am

I could be wrong but the idea (from the video clip just presented above) that the collapse of the fourth reactor at Fukushima would be "bye bye Japan" or require the evacuation of west coast US is just fear mongering and I was disappointed to hear it voiced there as it tends to undermine the credibility of the event where it was voiced and the credibility of the person speaking it.
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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

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Rain soddens what is covered up,
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Therefore uncover what is covered
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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

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Re: Discussion of Nuclear Power and Safety

Postby Schaublin » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:38 pm

Solar electricity PV (photovoltaic) panels and nuclear fission reactors both require easily extracted (low eroi) oil to make them work. In the case of nuclear power, it is (was) about producing weapons grade material.

All of the embedded energy costs in a solar panel come from oil and coal. Solar panels are toys - ditto nuclear power stations - dangerous toys in this case.

The current "standard of living" in the West is as a result of easily extracted oil. There is no comparable alternative energy.


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