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Or must one lie prone & fouled in one's own excrement and urine?

The king of the under world cross questions, asks for reasons and studies together with him thus. ‘Good man did you not see the first divine messenger among humans?’

He says ‘Sir I did not see.’

Then the king of the under world would ask him. ‘Good man didn’t you see a todler who stands and lies with difficulty, mingled in his own urine and excreta while lying?’

Devaduta Sutta

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Whether or not there is a lavatory is probably the least of the worries of the hell realms.

There are some other references to suttas describing hell rooms on this page: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dham ... /loka.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thank you. But I feel I have dwelt here in a past life.

Hello hellbeing,

There is an element of this thinking in all of us from time to time. No need to go on feelings, And if any part of the Teachings seems difficult to you, just set it aside for a while (without discounting it) and continue your practice.

with karuna,
Chris

hellbeing wrote:Thank you. But I feel I have dwelt here in a past life.

Sometimes there are elements in pop culture and shows which can help. Here is a great scene from the Lion King:



Dialogue elements:

Adult Simba: I know what I have to do. But going back will mean facing my past. I've been running from it for so long.

[Rafiki hits Simba on the head with his stick]

Adult Simba: Ow! Jeez, what was that for?

Rafiki: It doesn't matter. It's in the past.

Hellbeing = Element

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Now banned from Dhamma Wheel again for the 311th time.

Plenty of lavatories here at Dhamma Wheel:

It so happens that "excrement and urine" is an anagram for reenacted rune minx and cad reenter menu nix

We have probably experienced all the realms.

Don't you think after a long time in a deva realm, if you fell into a lower realm, it would seem like hell? Might even make a person want to pursue the Dharma in order to transcend all realms.

rowboat wrote:It so happens that "excrement and urine" is an anagram for reenacted rune minx and cad reenter menu nix

And ironically, Let me en is an anagram for Element.

See? Just when I decided to be nice to people, element rears his ugly head.
element=unbelievable shamelessness! what motivates this guy?

Now this is seriously badass lower realm kamma - to push alan off his metta-pursuing path!

I hope that the fear of the lower realms he is heading for will turn element towards the brahmavihara of not harassing Dhamma Wheel.

Wait, wait...What is wrong with this element guy?

Alan is kick-ass serious in these matters!