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web of views

Postby befriend » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:47 pm

what does one do when they get a wrong view. say someone denies karma. and they know its a wrong view but just cant seem to accept karma. when the thought "i cant beleive karma" comes up into there minds should they just not cling to that thought and let it pass. or should they try to figure it out and develop right view through study.
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Re: web of views

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:50 pm

They could try sticking their hand in a fire and see if it hurts.
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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:26 pm

hahah so your saying just by having the wrong view one would be in enough pain to simply let go of it, or am i reading that wrongly? thank you
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Re: web of views

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:54 pm

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Re: web of views

Postby Ben » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:42 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:49 pm

thank you very much for that teaching.
apacayana,
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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:41 pm

to cure wrong view could one see its baselessness by watching it arise and pass in the mind, seeing it is only impermanent it has no solidity?
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Re: web of views

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:24 pm

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Re: web of views

Postby Alex123 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:32 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: web of views

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:04 pm

Being uneducated about the Buddha's teaching, inexperienced in practice, and deluded are not good reasons to disbelieve in rebirth.

To learn the Dhamma thoroughly, and to gain mundane right view, let alone supramundane right view, is difficult — that is a given. If the Dhamma was easy to understand, the Buddha would not have been disinclined to teach it.

The rest has already been discussed at length in the Great Rebirth Thread, and doesn't need to be repeated here.
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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 pm

after you have right mindfulness does right view happen automatically like the mind judges by itself? will the mind naturally know right from wrong, or must it be learned.
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Re: web of views

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:23 pm

Off-topic posts have been removed. Please stay on topic.

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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:38 pm

what if the person still believes that its impossible to see where beings fare as they do after death. they have labeled it as being unskillful but they still believe it, because sometimes we cant choose what we believe.
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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:27 pm

how does one prevent the arising of a wrong view through right effort? views can be be knotted and sticky.
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Re: web of views

Postby santa100 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:55 am

befriend wrote:
"how does one prevent the arising of a wrong view through right effort? views can be be knotted and sticky"

You could try the 5-prong plan of attack from MN 20 ( http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html )..

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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:33 pm

to prevent unwholsome states from arising one uses sense restraint.
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Re: web of views

Postby befriend » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:54 pm

[quote="Bhikkhu Pesala"]The three unwholesome mental kammas — covetousness, ill-will, and wrong-view — arise in the mind. If we apply mindfulness to them, then we can stop them from multiplying and becoming stronger. For example:


Bikkhu Pesala, is this enough to eliminate a wrong view or does this antidote only keep them from multiplying and becoming stronger? thank you, puja, Befriend
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