How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

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How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby clw_uk » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:23 pm

Greetings


Is there a sutta or a passage where the Buddha gives advice on how to reconize if a teaching is correct in terms of Dhamma, sort of how to analyze if a teaching or interpretation is Dhamma or not?


P.S. Not the kalama sutta


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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:32 pm

I think it was just quoted here in the last two days, I forget which one it is exactly, but it says something like, any teaching that is in accord with the Noble Eightfold Middle Path, including sila, is Dhamma, that brings you to the end of dukkha, it is Dhamma.

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby gavesako » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:02 pm

The Gotami Sutta is at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

And I (coincidentally?) just made a video talking about it, because it seems to be a subject that many Buddhists wonder about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbhJxHgSPg
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby clw_uk » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:52 pm

Thank you Bhante for the link and the video



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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:05 pm

:thanks: Bhante!

Perfect timing for the post and the video.

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:33 pm

the parinibana sutta http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

and I asked a question recently about the one I think The Dhamma is referring to http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html referring to how to read it as it didn't make sense to me, and I have a suspicion there is a part of the maha-parinibbana sutta which says the same.


EDIT the thread I mention above referencing the second Sutta is found here viewtopic.php?f=19&t=972
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:44 pm

gavesako wrote:The Gotami Sutta is at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

And I (coincidentally?) just made a video talking about it, because it seems to be a subject that many Buddhists wonder about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbhJxHgSPg


I do enjoy your talks Bhante, have a subscription to Dhammatube and watched it earlier
“Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.
(The mendicants asked) What are the two [types of persons]?
(The Lord Buddha responded) The malicious, or the inwardly angry, and the one with (blind) faith or the one who holds things incorrectly.
Mendicants, these two [types of persons] defame the Tathāgata.”
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:53 am

Another succinct discourse is the Eight Thoughts of a Great Man.
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby Paul Davy » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:06 am

Greetings,

The following also comes to mind...

"Those who teach a Dhamma for the abandoning of passion, for the abandoning of aversion, for the abandoning of delusion — their Dhamma is well-taught."
AN 3.72 - Ajivaka Sutta

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby genkaku » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:46 am

As a post script and intending no disrespect:

It is helpful to have helpful and supportive sources. Children rely on their parents as authoritative and kind. Who could ever forget them?

AND ... all children who grow up will inevitably leave home. In this way, they will learn to actualize the Dharma wherever they go...they will have no need to ask.

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Postby Ana » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:53 pm

the only way is meditation

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