I Am a Strange Loop.

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I Am a Strange Loop.

Postby Individual » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:23 pm

Just picked up this book. A paragraph from it:

One day when I was around sixteen or seventeen, musing intensely on these swirling clouds of ideas that gripped me emotionally and intellectually, it dawned on me -- and it has ever since seemed to me -- that what we call "consciousness" was a kind of mirage. It had to be a very peculiar kind of mirage, to be sure, since it was a mirage that perceived itself, and of course it didn't believe that it was perceiving a mirage, but no matter -- it still was a mirage. It was almost as if this slippery phenomenon called "consciousness" lifted itself up by its own bootstraps, almost as if it made itself out of nothing, and then disintegrated back into nothing whenever one looked at it more closely.

Would this be the same as notself?
The best things in life aren't things.

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Re: I Am a Strange Loop.

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:39 pm

It is an isight.

So, what book is this from?
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond.
SN I, 38.

Ar scáth a chéile a mhaireas na daoine.
People live in one another’s shelter.

"We eat cold eels and think distant thoughts." -- Jack Johnson
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Re: I Am a Strange Loop.

Postby Individual » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:57 pm

tiltbillings wrote:It is an isight.

So, what book is this from?

"I Am a Strange Loop" by Douglas Hofstadter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop

Unfortunately, in the book there are absolutely no references at all to Buddhism or eastern thought. It seems peculiar how these ideas were unconsciously or unintentionally borrowed.
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Re: I Am a Strange Loop.

Postby genkaku » Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:01 am

Individual wrote:
tiltbillings wrote:It is an isight.

So, what book is this from?

"I Am a Strange Loop" by Douglas Hofstadter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop

Unfortunately, in the book there are absolutely no references at all to Buddhism or eastern thought. It seems peculiar how these ideas were unconsciously or unintentionally borrowed.


Who borrows or even steals from whom doesn't strike me as being as interesting as whether the ideas happen to be true. Common sense -- or Buddhism, if you like -- isn't constrained by East or West.
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Re: I Am a Strange Loop.

Postby clw_uk » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:10 am

Seems like it to me


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