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An Arahant's Constitution

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An Arahant's Constitution

Postby SeerObserver » Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:26 am

Just to be clear, I write this thread with no intention of questioning anyone's attainment. That is why specific references are left out for the time being (although they will probably eventually be brought up here and there).

Having attained enlightenment, how would that be reflected in one's constitution?

There are accounts of arahants being rude and otherwise impersonable. These range from the time of the Buddha through to modern times. Wouldn't one with such an attainment have gradually shed certain traits such as impatience, rudeness, etc? What about foul language?

It could be argued that certain attitudes are expressed as a skillful means of teaching a lesson as well, so that might reconcile certain instances of rudeness and the like.

And what to make of smoking?

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Re: An Arahant's Constitution

Postby SeerObserver » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:50 am

There is an account of Ajahn Chah I have seen somewhere (unverified so please let me know). Someone claiming to have just attained stream-entry came to tell him about it. Ajahn Chah says something along the lines that he supposes the meditator is now much better off than a dog (a fairly harsh insult in Thai, to call someone a dog). Afterwards, the meditator is fuming and leaves. Sotapanna?

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Re: An Arahant's Constitution

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:16 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: An Arahant's Constitution

Postby clw_uk » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:48 pm

Greetings


As i understand, Anatta isnt about annihilating personality or getting rid of it, its truly understanding it and seeing it for what it is


So therefor an Arahant can still have a distinct personality, its just there is no ignorance in understanding it and so no greed hatred or delusion


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