Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby robertk » Thu May 31, 2012 2:02 pm

I love that site, nice way to translate side by side.
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Bonsai Doug » Thu May 31, 2012 2:29 pm

Sekha wrote:http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/samyutta/maha/sn56-011.html

I just want to say thanx for bringing this site to my attention. :anjali:
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I do not have the luxury of remaining on a distracted path.

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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby kirk5a » Thu May 31, 2012 2:49 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:Just for you, The Sekha Sutta. :)

Hello Bhante

I see this at that link:
2. Sekha Sutta.- On five things leading to decline in a monk’s training: delight in business, in gossip, in sleeping, in company, and want of reflection on the mind as freed. A.iii.116.

I'm curious about this "reflection on the mind as freed." Do you know of more detail where that is described?
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu May 31, 2012 3:32 pm

have you decided on which text to do next?
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Sekha » Thu May 31, 2012 4:39 pm

it seems outside of the classic Dhammacak, Anattalak, Mahasatip, Anapanasati, and Kalama Suttas, the list becomes quickly very personal.

I think of doing these first, and then just follow my inspiration, which will keep me rather close to practical instructions and definitions. Probably starting with Kayagatasati Sutta, AN 8-54 (the best for householders I think)... and that alone will keep me busy for a long while!
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Cittasanto » Thu May 31, 2012 8:53 pm

Sekha wrote:it seems outside of the classic Dhammacak, Anattalak, Mahasatip, Anapanasati, and Kalama Suttas, the list becomes quickly very personal.

I think of doing these first, and then just follow my inspiration, which will keep me rather close to practical instructions and definitions. Probably starting with Kayagatasati Sutta, AN 8-54 (the best for householders I think)... and that alone will keep me busy for a long while!

Benefit of the Kayagatasati sutta is half the Satipatthana sutta is done! so why not swap it to before and then it is only the refrain you need to work on and the other (2/3 - half in length) just for practical purposes/speed...!
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Sekha » Thu May 31, 2012 11:16 pm

anyway, the whole process while probably take months, if not years because I also work on my french website at the same time and I also diversify the work with small projects like deepening an article about a tricky Pali word etc.

I also started just copy/pasting Than B's translations with the Pali text for comparison and bubbles on those words a chose to translate in his own way, which not everyone ever agrees on (dukkha=stress f. ex), which i believe can also be very interesting for Pali autodidacts

example here:
http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/majjhima/mn053.html
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Sekha » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:34 am

Just started the Mahāsatipaṭṭhāna Sutta :

http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/digha/dn22.html
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby Kusala » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:05 am

Kalama sutta
Metta Sutta
Tittha Sutta

And a few others...
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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby ground » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:45 am

Sabba sutta summarizes all (SN 35.23). Actually this is all that is relevant to "know". As an amendment (maybe) the Kaccayanagotta Sutta (SN 12.15).

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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby lucky-2012 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:32 am

Sekha wrote:It would be useful for me if you could list the 5 or 10 suttas that you consider as the most useful/important, or simply the first ones that come to your mind

thank you


Hi Sekha

Here's a list of my bookmarked suttas - i.e. ones which struck / strike a chord...

Anapanasati Sutta
Attadanda Sutta
Chachakka Sutta
Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta
Kannakatthala Sutta
Karaniya Metta Sutta
Kayagata-sata Sutta
Kitagiri Sutta
Magga-vibhanga Sutta
Maha-satipatthana Sutta
Piya Sutta
Ratana Sutta
Sigalovada Sutta

...but my list is growing fast.

At some point I plan to organise these somehow.

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Re: Which suttas do you consider as the most important?

Postby villkorkarma » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:40 pm

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