involuntary thought remorse?

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involuntary thought remorse?

Postby befriend » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:41 pm

hi everyone,
when one is daydreaming and they think a akusala thought then they stop and catch themselves, should we just ignore it and carry on with whatever were doing or do we feel remorse and become disgusted with it and make an effort to refrain from involuntarily thinkng negative thoughts. thank you. metta, befriend
when walking say to yourself "i am walking" when riding in a car say to yourself "i am sitting in a seat riding in a car" make sure to be concious of the statement, use your intelligence to simply comprehend it and in my experience this is the best way to be mindful in daily life.

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Re: involuntary thought remorse?

Postby daverupa » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 pm

Right effort suggests abandoning such thoughts, of course, but remorse is not helpful and can be set aside. Also, disgust and whatnot may be useful for some, but equanimity and disenchantment are perhaps better, or at least potentially less problematic.
    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.
- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: involuntary thought remorse?

Postby marc108 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:49 pm

i do not believe disgust or remorse in and of themselves will stop involuntary thoughts from arising, but may be useful in helping you be diligent in using skillful effort to remove them. try: ... el021.html
MN 18, Vitakkasanthana Sutta: The Removal of Distracting Thoughts
"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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