involuntary thought remorse?

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involuntary thought remorse?

Postby befriend » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:41 pm

hi everyone,
when one is daydreaming and they think a akusala thought then they stop and catch themselves, should we just ignore it and carry on with whatever were doing or do we feel remorse and become disgusted with it and make an effort to refrain from involuntarily thinkng negative thoughts. thank you. metta, befriend
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Re: involuntary thought remorse?

Postby daverupa » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 pm

Right effort suggests abandoning such thoughts, of course, but remorse is not helpful and can be set aside. Also, disgust and whatnot may be useful for some, but equanimity and disenchantment are perhaps better, or at least potentially less problematic.
    "There is, headman, dhammasamādhi. If you were to obtain cittasamādhi in that, you might abandon this state of perplexity. And what, headman, is dhammasamādhi?

    [kammapatha & brahmavihara, & a method of arousing gladness]"
- SN 42.13 - Pāṭaliya


    "Others will misapprehend according to their individual views, hold on to them tenaciously and not easily discard them; we shall not misapprehend according to individual views nor hold on to them tenaciously, but shall discard them with ease — thus effacement can be done."
- MN 8 - Sallekha Sutta
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Re: involuntary thought remorse?

Postby marc108 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:49 pm

i do not believe disgust or remorse in and of themselves will stop involuntary thoughts from arising, but may be useful in helping you be diligent in using skillful effort to remove them. try:

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el021.html
MN 18, Vitakkasanthana Sutta: The Removal of Distracting Thoughts
“The unawakened mind tends to make war against the way things are. To follow a path with heart, we must understand the whole process of making war within ourselves and without, how it begins and how it ends."
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