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Bodily fabrication

Postby lucky-2012 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:11 am

In Thanissaro Bhikkhu's translation of the Anapanasati Sutta, he refers to 'bodily fabrication'.

Can anyone please provide or point me towards a more in depth explanation of what this means?

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Re: Bodily fabrication

Postby piotr » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:59 am

Hi,

Take a look at 3rd footnote.
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Re: Bodily fabrication

Postby reflection » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:18 am

Hi!

Often that part is translated as breath-body or body of breath, pointing to the parts of the body and mind involved with the breathing. I know Nyantiloka translated it like this and Bodhi/Nanamoli did as well. That's because the word kaya ("body", but literally "group") does not have to point only to the entire physical body. A bit more detailed analysis you can find here, by Budhadasa: http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/anapanasati.pdf

I've come to understand it this way and think that's a logical interpretation for a sutta that is called sati of breathing. Also, this subclassification of 'body' pointing to the breath, I think is referred to in the sutta itself by this: " I tell you, monks, that this — the in-&-out breath — is classed as a body among bodies.".

So you calm the breath itself, that's what it means according to the interpretation above.

Note: Thanissaro may mean something else. As far as I know, the above is not his interpretation.

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Re: Bodily fabrication

Postby lucky-2012 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:37 am

Thank you both!

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Re: Bodily fabrication

Postby piotr » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:51 am

Hi,

reflection wrote:Often that part is translated as breath-body or body of breath (...)


I think that this reffers to the problem of understanding of sabbakāya rather than to the term kāyasaṅkhāra (“bodily fabrication” in translation by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu) mentioned in the original post.
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Re: Bodily fabrication

Postby reflection » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:17 pm

It's mainly the term 'kaya' I talked about, which is in both.
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