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Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

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Maarten2
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Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Maarten2 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:16 am

After a deep meditation experience, I think I realized the key to understanding the deeper teaching of the Buddha for myself. It took me about a week to find a way to put it words, but I came up with the following: “Everything we believe is untrue. Even this.”

Alternatively: "Every belief or conception is an oversimplification of complex reality (chaos theory)".

If the Buddha says something is wrong view, wrong belief, delusion, he actually means it is useless, ultimately leading to Dukkha.

If the Buddha says something is a right view, right belief, truth, he actually means it is useful, leading to the cessation of Dukkha.

Is this is interpretation justified?
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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Maarten2 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:15 am

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:41 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Maarten2 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:04 am

Never mind. This question was not phrased well. I will find more concrete sutta references for my point of view and ask it again.
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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Kare » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:34 am

‘Misschien is niets geheel waar, en zelfs dát niet’

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby reflection » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:56 am

In a way, yes, if ´belief´ refers to conceptual belief. A conceptual belief, for example based on words, is always wrong.

However, through the practice of the path, we can have experiences that show the way the mind works. These experiences give us a belief that is not conceptual, because it is based on a direct encounter with the truth. If it was a real insight and not a mistaken one, these beliefs are not untrue. Of course, unless we start to put them into words again.

That´s why all the suttas are wrong in a way, but right in another way. The buddha tried to explain his experiences in words. But words never become the truth. Just like someone describing the way something looks to a blind person, it is on another dimension.

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Maarten2 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:15 pm

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Alex123 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:54 pm

Hello Maarten2,

Personally I believe this: Every word is about something. Word is not the object itself.

Saying "food" will not feed you, saying "hot" will not warm you. To say "sweet" is different from actually putting sugar on your tongue.

The same event can be called using different words. Words are not inherent in the phenomenon, but are social agreements...


So the problem with philosophy is that it can be merely juggling of these words which may not even point to anything existing...
"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Dan74 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:58 pm

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Re: Is this a valid interpretation of Buddhism?

Postby Maarten2 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm

May you all become enlightened.

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