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Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:01 am
by xtracorrupt
Whenever you do something that you think the buddha would disapprove , ask yourself why would the buddha disapprove of this?

This is good because when you do this you take into consideration ill will and you also take into consideration possible causes for so.

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:48 am
by James the Giant
So, that's WWBD?

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:11 pm
by xtracorrupt
James the Giant wrote:So, that's WWBD?
I don't know, can u please say the full version.

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:58 pm
by daverupa
What Would Batman Do, maybe.

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Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:55 pm
by m0rl0ck
xtracorrupt wrote:Whenever you do something that you think the buddha would disapprove , ask yourself why would the buddha disapprove of this?

This is good because when you do this you take into consideration ill will and you also take into consideration possible causes for so.
The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:10 pm
by Bhikkhu Pesala
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?
If you don't care what the virtuous think of your behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:37 pm
by m0rl0ck
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?
If you don't care what the virtuous think of you're behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.
I try to live my life, according to certain principles, in a way that will, from what i have been given to understand and which seems to work in practice, reduce human suffering. I dont care to deify or curry favor with dead men, its a distraction from the path and from practice imo and comes with lots of conceptual dead weight.
Thank you for threatening me with hell, its been a while since anyone did that and i had forgotten how much i enjoyed it :)

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:56 pm
by JackV
m0rl0ck wrote:
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?
If you don't care what the virtuous think of you're behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.


I try to live my life, according to certain principles, in a way that will, from what i have been given to understand and which seems to work in practice, reduce human suffering. I dont care to deify or curry favor with dead men, its a distraction from the path and from practice imo and comes with lots of conceptual dead weight.
Thank you for threatening me with hell, its been a while since anyone did that and i had forgotten how much i enjoyed it :)
I do not think that the Ven Pesala was "threatening you" in any way. It's a simple statement that the Buddha, the person who taught Dhamma for the benefit of all beings has given us -shown us - the path. Without this path then we wouldn't be able to ever free ourselves from suffering. Without knowing the right way to go many would end up taking the wrong way ending up in a litteral or metaphorical hell.

Also you must see that your initial statement was worded a bit harshly. Whatever your view there is a way of surely saying it that isn't going to be so abrasive. Yikes

Re: Very good guideline to awakening

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:53 pm
by xtracorrupt
m0rl0ck wrote:
Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
m0rl0ck wrote:The buddha is just some guy who has been dead for over 2 thousand years, why the hell should i care what he thinks?
If you don't care what the virtuous think of you're behaviour then you lack any good qualities. Shame and fear of wrong-doing are the two guardians of the world, without which all will fall into hell. Then they will know why the hell they should have cared.

The Buddha is the teacher that all should remember and contemplate for the guiding example of perfect behaviour in body, speech, and thought. Reflecting on the Buddha's virtues is like using a mirror to see one's own defects.

The Buddha is not just some guy who died over 2,500 years ago. He was the incomparable teacher of trainable persons.

If the Buddha Did Not Appear

If the sun did not appear in the world the people would be groping in the dark and some would fall into a chasm. If the Buddha did not appear, there would be no knowledge of the Dhamma, and people would fall into the chasm of Hell. It is because the Buddha appeared that wisdom prevails to distinguish Hell from nibbāna, celestial realms and so forth. Otherwise, there would be profound ignorance.
I try to live my life, according to certain principles, in a way that will, from what i have been given to understand and which seems to work in practice, reduce human suffering. I dont care to deify or curry favor with dead men, its a distraction from the path and from practice imo and comes with lots of conceptual dead weight.
Thank you for threatening me with hell, its been a while since anyone did that and i had forgotten how much i enjoyed it :)
Try and make sure you have good will(wanting happiness/ no suffering), this will promote understandment in order to prevent suffering/bring happiness