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Do we create karma every second

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Do we create karma every second

Postby Stiphan » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:45 pm

Do we create karma every single moment while awake (and as a wilde guess, asleep)?

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Jechbi » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:54 pm

The real question is, are we creating kamma in this very moment right now, and if so, what kind?

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby kc2dpt » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:00 pm

I would think "no".
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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Stiphan » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:13 pm

OK, thanks.

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Guy » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:55 am

I am in no way qualified to answer this question, but it seems to me that not every action is a kammic action, it is only those actions which have a specific intention behind them which create kamma. For example, if you accidentally step on and kill an insect you didn't see, that would not be creating any kamma. However, if you get out a can of poison and intentionally start hunting and killing all the insects in your home, that would be a kammic action.
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1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Individual » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:29 am

Guy, let's say that you're driving and you unintentionally pull out in front of oncoming traffic, would that be a karmic action?

...As another example, let's say you're boiling some spaghetti, a droplet of water hits your arm. As a reflex, out of pain, you jerk back your arm, which then hits the cooking pan's handle, which catapults scalding water onto your face. Would this be a karmic action?

...Or let's say that you're a smoker in the 1920's and don't intend to get cancer. Would such smoking be karmic action and would lung cancer be vipaka?

It is important to remember that "intention" did not begin with this life, but the wheel of rebirth itself is supported by intention.
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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby acinteyyo » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:24 am

Greetings,
I try not to think too much about kamma and its consequences. I know that there are wholesome and unwholesome consequences with respect to the sila's or ethical behavior in general and that's enough for me. my nickname "acinteyya" means (roughly): "What should not be thought; inconceivability; something beyond the borders of thinking"
The buddha said:
There are the 4 inconceivabilities:(A.VI.77)
1. sphere of control* of the buddha (buddha-visaya)
2. sphere of control* of absorption/samādhi (jhāna-visaya)
3. sphere of action* of kamma (kamma-visaya)
4. speculation about/on* the world (lokacintā) (S.56.41)
(*sorry don't know if these are the right words)

When I was thinking about such things, I got into trouble with doubts. I guess because it is beyond thinking. :shrug:
it probably leads to insanity, if someone can't let go(A.VI.77)
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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Stiphan » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:43 am

Thank you!

So Bhante, I take it that the making of karma and experiencing of vipaka do not take place at the same time?

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Stiphan » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:58 am

So there are moments where I make new karma and during all the other moments I experience vipaka. I.e., there is no moment without one of these not occuring?
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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Guy » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:23 pm

Four types of letting go:

1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Stiphan » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:51 pm

Thank you Bhante. :anjali:

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Fede » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:25 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

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Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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Re: Do we create karma every second

Postby Sindre » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:51 pm

"When, Bahiya, for you in the seen is merely what is seen... in the cognized is merely what is cognized, then, Bahiya, you will not be 'with that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'with that,' then, Bahiya, you will not be 'in that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'in that,' then, Bahiya, you will be neither here nor beyond nor in between the two. Just this is the end of suffering."


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