Is this right livelihood?

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Is this right livelihood?

Postby Tom » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:17 am

Would participating in a research study and receiving a compensation fall within right livelihood?
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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby James the Giant » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:29 am

Are you hurting anyone or any thing by doing it?
Then,
saturated with joy,
you will put an end to suffering and stress.
SN 9.11
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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby Tom » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:01 am

I do not have the intention to hurt anyone by participating in any studies.
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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby James the Giant » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:14 am

How about this then...

Right Livelihood:
"A lay follower should not engage in five types of business. Which five? Business in weapons, business in human beings, business in meat, business in intoxicants, and business in poison."

— AN 5.177


Oh, and of course the basic Five Precepts.
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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby Tom » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:23 am

Would participation in psychology studies fall within "business in human beings"? Or is this referring to something more like prostitution, slavery, etc?
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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby nibbuti » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:50 am

ccharles wrote:Would participation in psychology studies fall within "business in human beings"?

Only if the psychology studies are manipulative or harmful, for example some secret drug experiments or experiments that cause permanent damage.

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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby LonesomeYogurt » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:03 pm

ccharles wrote:Would participation in psychology studies fall within "business in human beings"?

Not at all! As you said, that refers specifically to slavery, prostitution, or other forms of dealing in flesh. Psychology can be very helpful if done in a compassionate and responsible way, so I would say that there is absolutely no problem so long as the experiment is not designed to hurt anyone or to cause suffering.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta

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Re: Is this right livelihood?

Postby Annapurna » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:51 pm

ccharles wrote:Would participation in psychology studies fall within "business in human beings"? Or is this referring to something more like prostitution, slavery, etc?


If you are in doubt, share the type of study. *Study* is such a vague term, it could be anything.

Like, there once was a study done, how much pain someone would inflict upon another, if s-he was TOLD to increase the electrical current on a scale, applied to another human being.

The result was, that a lot of people went way too far, although the "victims" showed lots of pain. when they were told to increase the current, as if they weren't responsible anymore and some might have gone into the area that read:

"possibly lethal dose", if they had been told they have to...

some refused to go further if the victim showed pain.

I personally would refuse to do this type of psychological experiment.
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