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Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Strive4Karuna » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:06 am

I feel like I have no choice in my life but to become a monk or recluse and dedicate my entire life to meditation. I have suffered greatly in my life, have always wished for a normal life (get a job maybe have a family) but I don't think it is what I was born to do. I am 19 years old but feel younger. I am a little kid inside who suffers from strong anxieties and I'm afraid to leave my family in order to become a monk. Some of you might not understand what I mean about feeling like I have no choice in life but to become a monk or recluse but you just got to trust me on this without asking questions about why I feel that way. Pretty much growing up in Toronto, Canada, dressing the way other kids dress, listening to the same music etc., its hard for me to do a complete 180 in my life from becoming a city slicker to becoming a monk. What should I do?
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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Ben » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:46 am

Greetings Strive4Karuna,
Attend some residential retreats and get established in Dhamma practice in daily life as a lay person first. If after some years of life as a lay person you are still interested in ordaning, then go for it.
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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:42 am

Ben wrote:Greetings Strive4Karuna,
Attend some residential retreats and get established in Dhamma practice in daily life as a lay person first. If after some years of life as a lay person you are still interested in ordaning, then go for it.
with metta,

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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Alobha » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:16 pm

Ben wrote:Greetings Strive4Karuna,
Attend some residential retreats and get established in Dhamma practice in daily life as a lay person first. If after some years of life as a lay person you are still interested in ordaning, then go for it.
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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:21 pm

Strive4Karuna wrote:I feel like I have no choice in my life but to become a monk or recluse and dedicate my entire life to meditation. I have suffered greatly in my life, have always wished for a normal life (get a job maybe have a family) but I don't think it is what I was born to do. I am 19 years old but feel younger. I am a little kid inside who suffers from strong anxieties and I'm afraid to leave my family in order to become a monk. Some of you might not understand what I mean about feeling like I have no choice in life but to become a monk or recluse but you just got to trust me on this without asking questions about why I feel that way. Pretty much growing up in Toronto, Canada, dressing the way other kids dress, listening to the same music etc., its hard for me to do a complete 180 in my life from becoming a city slicker to becoming a monk. What should I do?


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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Yana » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:00 pm

Ben wrote:Greetings Strive4Karuna,
Attend some residential retreats and get established in Dhamma practice in daily life as a lay person first. If after some years of life as a lay person you are still interested in ordaning, then go for it.
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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby daverupa » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:08 pm

Don't take student loans or buy a car. Work and earn money to attend school if you like, but try to avoid long financial commitments because those can take choices away. Don't have children, or engage in activities which lead to them, for the same reason. Don't start smoking, ditto.

Then, you can relax and find your bliss without a rush.

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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Chi » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:27 am

Ben wrote:Greetings Strive4Karuna,
Attend some residential retreats and get established in Dhamma practice in daily life as a lay person first. If after some years of life as a lay person you are still interested in ordaning, then go for it.
with metta,

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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:02 am

Ben wrote:Greetings Strive4Karuna,
Attend some residential retreats and get established in Dhamma practice in daily life as a lay person first. If after some years of life as a lay person you are still interested in ordaning, then go for it.
with metta,

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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby Ben » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:08 am

oh lord, I think I've created a monster!!!!
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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby plwk » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:46 am

oh lord, I think I've created a monster!!!!

yes and with my addition, it has 8 heads now :lol:
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If this single thing is recollected and made much,
it invariably leads to weariness, cessation, appeasement, realization and extinction.

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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby tanhakhaya » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:04 pm

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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby steve19800 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:02 pm

Strive4Karuna wrote:I feel like I have no choice in my life but to become a monk or recluse and dedicate my entire life to meditation. I have suffered greatly in my life, have always wished for a normal life (get a job maybe have a family) but I don't think it is what I was born to do. I am 19 years old but feel younger. I am a little kid inside who suffers from strong anxieties and I'm afraid to leave my family in order to become a monk. Some of you might not understand what I mean about feeling like I have no choice in life but to become a monk or recluse but you just got to trust me on this without asking questions about why I feel that way. Pretty much growing up in Toronto, Canada, dressing the way other kids dress, listening to the same music etc., its hard for me to do a complete 180 in my life from becoming a city slicker to becoming a monk. What should I do?


I understand your situation. I know there are people who stuck in between, not sure for example they will be able to live a monk's life or just simply not ready yet just like you say separate from family. But at the same time you have the feeling that the lay people's life is not what we want to do, something is missing here.

In my opinion, take your time and you will know which decision is what you think best for you. Don't force yourself, let it flow naturally.
Try to participate in the retreat just like Ben said, 3 days, 10 days up to a month or more than that as you wish. Apart from this, I can assure you that you are not alone, life is a process, sometimes it takes time for things to settle down.
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Re: Caught between normal life/ monk life

Postby byronmajor » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:56 am

Its my Kamma 9th.
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