singularity of perception?

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singularity of perception?

Postby John1122 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:15 pm

"There are beings with diversity of body and singularity of perception, such as the devas of the Brahma hosts generated by the first [jhana] and some beings in the four realms of deprivation. This is the second station of consciousness. [2]

DN 15
PTS: D ii 55
Maha-nidana Sutta: The Great Causes Discourse
Seven Stations of Consciousness
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

What would be a singular perception?
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Re: singularity of perception?

Postby santa100 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:56 pm

From Maurice Walshe's translation:

There are beings different in body and different in perception, such as human beings, some devas and some in states of woe. That is the first station of consciousness. There are beings different in body and alike in perception, such as the devas of Brahmā׳s retinue, born there [on account of having attained] the first jhāna. That is the second station.


Different persons obviously have very different perceptions. A big sharp knife to a serial killer is mostly a tool for taking other people's life while to a chef, it's mostly a tool to make some very delicious dishes..
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Re: singularity of perception?

Postby Cittasanto » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:06 pm

John1122 wrote:"There are beings with diversity of body and singularity of perception, such as the devas of the Brahma hosts generated by the first [jhana] and some beings in the four realms of deprivation. This is the second station of consciousness. [2]

DN 15
PTS: D ii 55
Maha-nidana Sutta: The Great Causes Discourse
Seven Stations of Consciousness
translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html

What would be a singular perception?

I understand this as being about the tint of how one sees things, i.e., wearing rose tinted glasses. Essentially they see things in the same way.
This offering maybe right, or wrong, but it is one, the other, both, or neither!
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"Others will misconstrue reality due to their personal perspectives, doggedly holding onto and not easily discarding them; We shall not misconstrue reality due to our own personal perspectives, nor doggedly holding onto them, but will discard them easily. This effacement shall be done."
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