Re: The causes for wisdom
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:15 am
Related to what, exactly, Kevin?
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Related to what, exactly, Kevin?
Did you listen to it?Mr Man wrote:Hi Virgo
Perhaps you could bring what you took from the talk to the discusion?
Yes I did. I think that it would be nice for Virgo to say how he relates the clip to this discusion though.tiltbillings wrote:Did you listen to it?Mr Man wrote:Hi Virgo
Perhaps you could bring what you took from the talk to the discusion?
I hope he does. One needs to do more than just plop something on the table without being willing to discuss it. While the characterization of traditional metta meditation is in line with some things said in this thread, it would be of interest to read a what Sujin followers have to about what is said in the talk.Mr Man wrote:Yes I did. I think that it would be nice for Virgo to say how he relates the clip to this discusion though.tiltbillings wrote:Did you listen to it?Mr Man wrote:Hi Virgo
Perhaps you could bring what you took from the talk to the discusion?
The right path and the wrong path.Ben wrote:Related to what, exactly, Kevin?
Don't be stingy with your words. What is the right path and what is the wrong path?Virgo wrote:The right path and the wrong path.Ben wrote:Related to what, exactly, Kevin?
Kevin
Very often we take akusala for kusala. Is there really calm or is it attachment? This is evident in the discussion about metta practice in the talk.Mr Man wrote:Hi Virgo
Perhaps you could bring what you took from the talk to the discusion?
One needs to understand magga-paccaya to really understand it.tiltbillings wrote: Don't be stingy with your words. What is the right path and what is the wrong path?
VirgoVirgo wrote:One needs to understand magga-paccaya to really understand it.tiltbillings wrote: Don't be stingy with your words. What is the right path and what is the wrong path?
Kevin
VirgoVirgo wrote:Very often we take akusala for kusala. Is there really calm or is it attachment? This is evident in the discussion about metta practice in the talk.Mr Man wrote:Hi Virgo
Perhaps you could bring what you took from the talk to the discusion?
We have so much lobha that we don't even recognize it most of the time. Is that really renunciation? Or is that just developing more subtle akusala?
These are the questions we have to ask ourselves.
Kevin
I like to think that I understand it fairly well, yes.Mr Man wrote:VirgoVirgo wrote:One needs to understand magga-paccaya to really understand it.tiltbillings wrote: Don't be stingy with your words. What is the right path and what is the wrong path?
Kevin
Do you understand it?
So Virgo, You know what is right path and what is wrong path? You know you are on the right path (you have gone beyond doubt)? And you no when others are on the wrong path?Virgo wrote:I like to think that I understand it fairly well, yes.Mr Man wrote:
Virgo
Do you understand it?
Kevin
and also this:Faculty condition (indriya paccaya). There are twenty-two faculties: six sense bases, two sexes, the life faculty, five feelings, five feelings, five spiritual faculties, and three supra-mundane faculties. Except for the two sexes, the other twenty can exercise control in their respective spheres on the co-existent mental states and the material phenomena they originate. For example, mindfulness — one of the five spiritual faculties — has a controlling influence on the other four co-adjuncts during meditation.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el322.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Free Will. Someone might say: "If all phenomena are conditionally arisen, then Buddhism is a form of fatalism, for we have no free will to control our destiny." Such a statement would not be correct. Will is volition (cetanaa), a mental state, determined ethically by its root condition (hetu paccaya). If the root is unwholesome, we can either restrain or indulge the volition; if the root is wholesome, we can encourage it or neglect it. In this exercise of will lies our freedom to guide our destiny.