The fool and the wise person
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:53 pm
SN 12.19 PTS: S ii 23 CDB i 549
Bala-pandita Sutta: The Fool & the Wise Person
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
(It starts with the Buddha describing a fool and a wise person but it seems the descriptions are the same. When asked what is the difference, the Buddha replies:)
The Blessed One said, "The ignorance with which the fool is obstructed, the craving with which he is conjoined, through which this body results: that ignorance has not been abandoned by the fool; that craving has not been destroyed. Why is that? The fool has not practiced the holy life for the right ending of stress. Therefore, at the break-up of the body, he is headed for a [new] body. Headed for a body, he is not entirely freed from birth, aging, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. I tell you, he is not entirely freed from stress & suffering.
"The ignorance with which the wise person is obstructed, the craving with which he is conjoined, through which this body results: that ignorance has been abandoned by the wise person; that craving has been destroyed. Why is that? The wise person has practiced the holy life for the right ending of stress. Therefore, at the break-up of the body, he is not headed for a [new] body. Not headed for a body, he is entirely freed from birth, aging, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. He is, I tell you, entirely freed from stress & suffering."
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Can someone explain this? Seems like the wise person is obstructed by already destroyed ignorance (how can that be?) and conjoined by already destroyed craving(and how can that be?)
Seems like double talk to me.
chownah
Bala-pandita Sutta: The Fool & the Wise Person
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
(It starts with the Buddha describing a fool and a wise person but it seems the descriptions are the same. When asked what is the difference, the Buddha replies:)
The Blessed One said, "The ignorance with which the fool is obstructed, the craving with which he is conjoined, through which this body results: that ignorance has not been abandoned by the fool; that craving has not been destroyed. Why is that? The fool has not practiced the holy life for the right ending of stress. Therefore, at the break-up of the body, he is headed for a [new] body. Headed for a body, he is not entirely freed from birth, aging, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. I tell you, he is not entirely freed from stress & suffering.
"The ignorance with which the wise person is obstructed, the craving with which he is conjoined, through which this body results: that ignorance has been abandoned by the wise person; that craving has been destroyed. Why is that? The wise person has practiced the holy life for the right ending of stress. Therefore, at the break-up of the body, he is not headed for a [new] body. Not headed for a body, he is entirely freed from birth, aging, death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. He is, I tell you, entirely freed from stress & suffering."
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Can someone explain this? Seems like the wise person is obstructed by already destroyed ignorance (how can that be?) and conjoined by already destroyed craving(and how can that be?)
Seems like double talk to me.
chownah