Is snuff an intoxicant?

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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

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Dear villkorkarma,

So you don't know if you're a fully enlightened being? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

An arahant doesn't necessarily have to be dead.

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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

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Okay then I got the answer again I was looking for, thank you. I Think iam one of the calmest humans on Earth
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Why did you say It was ridicilous?
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

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Dear villkorkarma,

Because it's contradictory. The stock description of an arahant is one who KNOWS.
Being disenchanted, he becomes dispassionate. Through dispassion [his mind] is liberated. When it is liberated there comes the knowledge: 'It is liberated.' He understands: 'Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming to any state of being.'
-MN 22, Ven. Bodhi's translation.

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yeah. or are certain. But what things do a master know or are certain about? :)
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I ve stoped with snuff now. :bow:
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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?

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hi villkorkarma

good luck. watch the cravings pass . ive been off cigarettes for a month now, it gets easier each day
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

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Do you know its gets easier and easier?
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from my experience it does indeed. its not my first time giving up but i do intend it to be my last.
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
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Have you readed that Buddha said that you get freedom from danger by giving up cigaretts? you dont get paranoid thoughts if you quit.
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ive never read anything about cigarettes specifically, but ive read a lot aboutt the benifits of being free from craving and desire by the Buddha.

nothing ever induced constant craving and desire on a daily basis like nicotine did. i didnt smoke cigareetes for 4 years, only joints of tobacco and cannabis to the point where my mind was consumed by paranoid thoughts.

i finished with cannabis four months ago and gave up cigarettes at the beginning of december. i had some anxiousness and restlessness in the beginning but i meditated, exercised and ate healthy nutritous food. it became easier to forget about smoking and now it is in my past.
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
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From my experience it is like this: its get easier and easier and I feel: Soon I can get up snuff totally, because its getting much easier from moment to moment.
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glad to here i ve got the same experience from cannabis but i quit with that 6 years ago or 5 years and 9 months ago to be extactly. snuff started i with 3 years ago and it has become more and more until now and so have it been, but i dont feel the same craving anymore. :woohoo:
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Alcohol: It is said to be Heavy karma in a sort of way because it is a unskilled action.My experience it is like that. just one zip and I felt so bad oversensetive 2 Days after. S N Goenka said that drinking alcohol is a breaking of morality, sila. Its not the first time i feel like that after I have been drinking alcohol.
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i seem to be overly sensitive to the effects of alcohol too. i would find myself getting aggressive easier, speaking badly , becoming consumed with feelings of lust, and gave me a desire to take sstimulant drugs. i had the feeling of being poisoned the following day.

i dont drink anymore and my social life has suffered but it is good to learn to function as a balanced human with out needing any substance

taking the five precepts has given me thee chance to improve my quality of life.
Aflame with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion.
Aflame, with birth, aging & death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, & despairs ......

Seeing thus, the disciple of the Noble One grows disenchanted. SN 35.28
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