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Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:23 pm
by Mkoll
Dear villkorkarma,
So you
don't know if you're a fully enlightened being? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
An arahant doesn't necessarily have to be dead.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:33 pm
by villkorkarma
Okay then I got the answer again I was looking for, thank you. I Think iam one of the calmest humans on Earth
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:44 pm
by villkorkarma
Why did you say It was ridicilous?
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:18 am
by Mkoll
Dear villkorkarma,
Because it's contradictory. The stock description of an arahant is one who
KNOWS.
Being disenchanted, he becomes dispassionate. Through dispassion [his mind] is liberated. When it is liberated there comes the knowledge: 'It is liberated.' He understands: 'Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming to any state of being.'
-MN 22, Ven. Bodhi's translation.
PS
I sent you a PM.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:48 pm
by villkorkarma
yeah. or are certain. But what things do a master know or are certain about?
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:35 pm
by villkorkarma
I ve stoped with snuff now.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:17 pm
by Babadhari
hi villkorkarma
good luck. watch the cravings pass . ive been off cigarettes for a month now, it gets easier each day
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:18 pm
by villkorkarma
Do you know its gets easier and easier?
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:22 pm
by Babadhari
from my experience it does indeed. its not my first time giving up but i do intend it to be my last.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:26 pm
by villkorkarma
Have you readed that Buddha said that you get freedom from danger by giving up cigaretts? you dont get paranoid thoughts if you quit.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:35 pm
by Babadhari
ive never read anything about cigarettes specifically, but ive read a lot aboutt the benifits of being free from craving and desire by the Buddha.
nothing ever induced constant craving and desire on a daily basis like nicotine did. i didnt smoke cigareetes for 4 years, only joints of tobacco and cannabis to the point where my mind was consumed by paranoid thoughts.
i finished with cannabis four months ago and gave up cigarettes at the beginning of december. i had some anxiousness and restlessness in the beginning but i meditated, exercised and ate healthy nutritous food. it became easier to forget about smoking and now it is in my past.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:38 pm
by villkorkarma
From my experience it is like this: its get easier and easier and I feel: Soon I can get up snuff totally, because its getting much easier from moment to moment.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:42 pm
by villkorkarma
glad to here i ve got the same experience from cannabis but i quit with that 6 years ago or 5 years and 9 months ago to be extactly. snuff started i with 3 years ago and it has become more and more until now and so have it been, but i dont feel the same craving anymore.
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:46 pm
by villkorkarma
Alcohol: It is said to be Heavy karma in a sort of way because it is a unskilled action.My experience it is like that. just one zip and I felt so bad oversensetive 2 Days after. S N Goenka said that drinking alcohol is a breaking of morality, sila. Its not the first time i feel like that after I have been drinking alcohol.
Re: Is snuff an intoxicant?
Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:02 am
by Babadhari
i seem to be overly sensitive to the effects of alcohol too. i would find myself getting aggressive easier, speaking badly , becoming consumed with feelings of lust, and gave me a desire to take sstimulant drugs. i had the feeling of being poisoned the following day.
i dont drink anymore and my social life has suffered but it is good to learn to function as a balanced human with out needing any substance
taking the five precepts has given me thee chance to improve my quality of life.